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post #1 of 49 Old 12-28-2011, 07:55 AM Thread Starter
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Finaly got my Mattracks installed on the Rub

Took her out in the snow for the first time today since swapping the tracks off my old CJ.
The Rub is way under powered for any kind of fast hill climbing.
Also still have some work to do on the steering...I think the reservoir may be to small (like the last time)
Anyway its usable...now I just need some more snow!!!
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post #2 of 49 Old 12-28-2011, 08:09 AM
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Fucking awesome! I want these!


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Sweet!! but for the cost of the tracks (like 30g) Id do a hemi swap and 60s. Dont get too much deep snow around me anyway for the tracks to be useful. BUT THEY ARE BADASS!!!

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Dude that looks cool as hell! Got any action shots yet?

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Sweet!! but for the cost of the tracks (like 30g) Id do a hemi swap and 60s. Dont get too much deep snow around me anyway for the tracks to be useful. BUT THEY ARE BADASS!!!
I've had them for a few years now so the cost has long been washed out (swallowing hard)
We get 6 and 7 ft of snow around here and I just love getting out and exploring, I don't know much about really big tires but I know I'm constantly pulling folks out....10 ft from the asphalt.
I definitely need more power though!!!
Not sure how big a deal a hemi swap i$...? how about one of those super chargers...I need the ass down low.
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Those are great, I've always wanted to try a set!
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well they look awesome.. from what ive seen looks kinda hard to steer.. yeah i bet you do need more power.. a super charger would help.. but im guessing you might need a hemi or Ls engine to move those things... would be fun to try those things ..looks like great fun ! thanks for the pic .. post up some more action ones
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well they look awesome.. from what ive seen looks kinda hard to steer.. yeah i bet you do need more power.. a super charger would help.. but im guessing you might need a hemi or Ls engine to move those things... would be fun to try those things ..looks like great fun ! thanks for the pic .. post up some more action ones
So I'm wondering just how much help I can get from Supper Charger, been looking at some of what Ripp have to say and its hard to separate the reality from the BS...also been trying to search this forum for some real life experience, but have yet to find anything real current.

Hemi may add a lot of additional weight.

Not hard to steer...mine have what they call steering assist...basically its a hydraulic cylinder built into the track that applies down pressure to one set of the bogies....raising the front and back of the track...this greatly reduces the surface area in contact.
The problem is the extra hydraulic fluid required and the limited size of the reservoir...I had to modify it on the CJ and will probably have to do the same here....but lots less space to do it in.

I could sure use some good advice on the super chargers.....

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Dude that looks cool as hell! Got any action shots yet?
No action shots yet...I'm the driver and the photographer!!

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Dude that's sweet! 7-10' of snow? Damn, I'm lucky if I get 3' in a year.

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Would gearing help?

As for supercharger info, I have an Avenger kit which delivers most of its benefit in the lower rpm range.

I know Jack has a customer who is also running tracks but that is on a TJ.
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i had a RIPP supercharger on my last JK.. i loved it.. gave me the extra power i was looking for... and your right..about the extra hemi weight so the RIPP sounds like it might be the way to go for you... their new gen 2 kit is really nice.. comes with everything you need.. and the inner cooler is really nice addition. i had no issues at all with RIPP supercharger..check them out
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Would gearing help?

As for supercharger info, I have an Avenger kit which delivers most of its benefit in the lower rpm range.

I know Jack has a customer who is also running tracks but that is on a TJ.
I don't think gearing will help...the way the tracks are configured they already drop down about a 3rd of the already low rub ratios.
I'll do a search on the avenger kit...low end is where I want the juice.
Who's Jack and how can I contact him...I'm a nubi.

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Would gearing help?

As for supercharger info, I have an Avenger kit which delivers most of its benefit in the lower rpm range.

I know Jack has a customer who is also running tracks but that is on a TJ.
I had the same thought. I would think you would treat those like a set of 40s and a regearing of 5.38s would help turn em a bit better.

My perfect setup would envolve these with D60s and Jeffs Jeep Yard 4bt conversion

Very cool that you have these though... do you mind me askin how much you picked them up for? Am I correct in guessing around 15k?

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I had the same thought. I would think you would treat those like a set of 40s and a regearing of 5.38s would help turn em a bit better.

My perfect setup would envolve these with D60s and Jeffs Jeep Yard 4bt conversion

Very cool that you have these though... do you mind me askin how much you picked them up for? Am I correct in guessing around 15k?
Ther're expensive, I paid a little over 30 for them about 5 years ago from the factory in the states....then had to get them here then paid duity

I think they're about the same price now.

They are a work of art...the tracks have carbon fiber rods trans-versing in every tread...the bogies each have something like ten seals...there is a lot to them...they weigh over 1500 lbs.

If you want to float on realy deep snow there is really no alternative that I've found...I grew up in central and northern Alaska and we had /made all sorts of ATV contraptions....these are the cats ass.

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That's just sick

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That looks sick looking!
How about this then.
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I dont really think that a super charger is going to give you all of the low end power you are looking for. Itll give you more but since the supercharger makes more power in the higher RPM range there goes the low end. A hemi swap is more money and a little more weight compared to the 3.8 but then you have the low end torque that you might be after.

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That's just sick. Awesomely sick!

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Itll give you more but since the supercharger makes more power in the higher RPM range there goes the low end.
A centrifugal supercharger will give you more power in the higher RPM range. A roots style is just the opposite.
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