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Pismo Dunes hits the news again

Hello Everyone, noob here, been lurking for just a bit. Time to speak up. Thought those of you here that frequent the dunes should know.

The Pismo Dunes have been making the news here in San Luis Obispo a bit more lately. Had a recent article in the Telegram Tribune and now this on the local news.

Here is the link: http://www.kcoy.com/Global/story.asp?S=11690612

Posted the Telegram Tribune link in Land Use on Pirate.


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It would seem a reasonble course to poke holes in a study like this - I'd need to see it or have one of our side review it closely, but there are a lot of vehicles and roads around that area that would seemingly be tied to any air particulate matter. Besides forest fires put up more particulate matter every summer that a pot-load of cars all year long.

The thing to do is get the study and have folks who talk this talk go thru it.
Then perhaps do a press release about our findings.

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Del, I will do my best to stay on this. It sounds like the city council also wants a larger public review.

Odd you say something about the fires, I do believe some entity is, or will be, doing a controlled burn to wipe out invasive grasses by Oso Flaco Lake. It is at the south east side of the dunes area.

And yes, there is quite a large number of acres devoted to crop land directly below the mesa, as well as a well used set of railroad tracks that meanders thru the same valley, and an industrial plant on the mesa. I need to find out more facts, as any of these have the potential be a contributer.

p.s. this is the same Todd that met you at the Pomona this year. Time to take the task at hand!
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Hi Todd, good to "hear" from you.

Here is some stuff I've written about wildfire, controlled burning, and public land management. Not sure how much it might help you, but if you are intersested I used to do controlled burns as a fire professional for CA:

(read the links also at the bottom of this article).

http://www.delalbright.com/articles/fire.htm

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Del, thanks for the read. As I told you before, it must be discouraging to face this battle constantly.

I would be hypocritical to not lend a hand. I will try to keep up on this, as much for our rights as for the process of learning.

I know I join this battle late in the game for the dunes, I grew up in the area, 3-wheelers and an old CJ 3B have been been there of mine, and I don't frequent there much now.

It certainly does'nt change the battle though, does it?

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Well, no sooner than my thought. . . . . . . . .,

I wonder where they are going to take the particulate test on the Mesa for this one.

I know, NOWHERE!!!!!!!!!!

yell if the link does'nt work;

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/lo...ry/961189.html

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For us BRC guys, we have Pismo here under fire, and at the same time, Oregon Dunes under attack big time.

Duners all across the country are going to have to engage heavily in this public process we call land management -- because the dunes are in the scope.

For Pismo, I'm doing a lot of reading right now on smoke and fire. I'm looking for some links that might help us fight back on this particulate matter stuff. For example, three months of a smokey haze from wildfires causes 12 times more particulate matter than car exhaust.

I'll post up when I have some solid links.
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Hey, for CA I did find some cool data and info on the website of the California Forestry Assocation: www.foresthealth.org

They talk about cars on the road, CO2 and forests here: http://www.foresthealth.org/pdf/Wild...d%20trends.pdf

Air quality and smoke from wildfire here: http://www.foresthealth.org/pdf/Wild...nformation.pdf

And here is the data provided by the EPA for Air Emmission Sources: http://www.epa.gov/air/emissions/pm.htm
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It would seem a reasonble course to poke holes in a study like this - I'd need to see it or have one of our side review it closely, but there are a lot of vehicles and roads around that area that would seemingly be tied to any air particulate matter. Besides forest fires put up more particulate matter every summer that a pot-load of cars all year long.

The thing to do is get the study and have folks who talk this talk go thru it.
Then perhaps do a press release about our findings.

Del
Not to mention all the agriculture between dunes and Nipomo, and that Nipomo is surrounded by ag fields. I dont think any of that ag equipment is air pollution controlled.

Those of you that think you know everything really annoy those of us that do!
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