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Is it me, or is the drivers side tires facing one way, and the passenger tires are facing the opposite?
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Is it me, or is the drivers side tires facing one way, and the passenger tires are facing the opposite?
They are supposed to be that way... the narrow area is supposed to be toward the inside, that's how they were designed & tested the best at least.

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Are they on sale yet or just R&D?
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certain tire sizes are available. I think the 37x12.5 r17 will be available April 1st.

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Maybe it's an optical illusion, but they look to me like a v-tread. Something like a claw or x-terrain.

That's what I was refering to one side looks like it's facing forward, and the other side is facing the other way.
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Maybe it's an optical illusion, but they look to me like a v-tread. Something like a claw or x-terrain.

That's what I was refering to one side looks like it's facing forward, and the other side is facing the other way.
They do face the opposite way, but most tires do that. It's just not as obvious on other tires as your eyes want to follow that V. But according to testing, it makes no difference how you run them.

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Any evidence that the kevlar sidewalls are showing a benefit?

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My buddy @ goodyear says a big improvement and that they haven't been able to cut one on the trail yet! Technically, I think they say 35% improvement. I personally think the old mt/r's had the strongest "streetable" sidewall previously so any improvement will far exceed other radial tires!

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A really good friend of mine is a manager at Discount tire out here, he said these are going to be a great tire, he has worked at Discount for quite a while and i value his opinion. He ordered a set for his Ram 2500, hopefully i can check them out next week!

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They do face the opposite way, but most tires do that. It's just not as obvious on other tires as your eyes want to follow that V. But according to testing, it makes no difference how you run them.
ok, I understand now. Seems like it would be a good idea to offer left and right versions then like some v-tread tires.
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Didn't anyone take picts of these head on? These diagonal pictures are all photogenic and such, but a head on would sure be a nice view too. Goodyear doesn't even post up any on their site.

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ok, I understand now. Seems like it would be a good idea to offer left and right versions then like some v-tread tires.

Thats why I don't really like them. They look directional even though they say they are not. I think directional tires are good, I just like having the option of rotating the tires all around and using my spare without having to shift tires around
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The first time I looked at the tread I didn't like them, but I was talking to some guys at Katemcy, that really know their stuff, that had the opportunity to test these. They said they were up there with Krawlers in terms of traction. The lower part of the sidewall flexes greatly, but the upper part (next to the rim) does not flex anywhere near as much. As a result, things like popped beads, damaged rims, etc, will be minimized.

As much as I've been impressed with KM2's, I'm sorely tempted to try some of these when the 37x12.50x17's come out, which I was told will be in the next week or so.

Although they may look it they are not directional, and supposedly work as well facing either way.
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Didn't anyone take picts of these head on? These diagonal pictures are all photogenic and such, but a head on would sure be a nice view too. Goodyear doesn't even post up any on their site.
This is the nearest I've seen to a head on pic, which is certainly close enough to give you the idea:

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I bet thjey work really well. The biggest problem with A/t's is they gum up in mud. That picture shows the A/T strip gummed up but the voids are still self cleaning.

The biggest problem with M/T's is they don't have good traction on flat and slick like icy/wet roads. That strip down the middle will certainly help there.

I have also heard the sidewalls are nice as far as hardness.

Still just not for me, at least not yet. They will probably grow on me after a while
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Thats why I don't really like them. They look directional even though they say they are not. I think directional tires are good, I just like having the option of rotating the tires all around and using my spare without having to shift tires around
Since one side points one way and the other backwards, that wouldn't affect rotating the tires.

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Thanks Phil,
I was actually hoping for one with both fronts in view. I just wanted to see how weird they really look. I'll really know in a couple of weeks.

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I'm sure they work well. Just imagine how many people on the trail will be asking why one side is pointing one way and the other side is pointing the other.

Whether they work equally well either way or not, I would still like a right and left version. Then you can rotate them side to side and have them facing either way but at least all 4 will still be facing the same direction. I just don't like how they are opposite each other.
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I bet thjey work really well. The biggest problem with A/t's is they gum up in mud. That picture shows the A/T strip gummed up but the voids are still self cleaning.

The biggest problem with M/T's is they don't have good traction on flat and slick like icy/wet roads. That strip down the middle will certainly help there.

I have also heard the sidewalls are nice as far as hardness.

Still just not for me, at least not yet. They will probably grow on me after a while
My KM2's sucked on the ice until I siped'em. I'm thinking I'll sipe these too before I put them on. If you're wondering why decided to go with these, I've sliced the sidewalls of the KM2's twice now. I'm hoping going with Kevlar will help me out with that. Plus it was time for some 35's anyway.

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I was actually hoping for one with both fronts in view.
Drink enough so you have double vision then quickly turn your head upside down and squint and you'll get a good idea
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Drink enough so you have double vision then quickly turn your head upside down and squint and you'll get a good idea
Whoa! And I thought the cops asking me to say the alphabet backwards was tough.

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I'm sure they work well. Just imagine how many people on the trail will be asking why one side is pointing one way and the other side is pointing the other.
I'm sure you'll get people saying "You've got your tires on backwards" and other other such things
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I'm sure you'll get people saying "You've got your tires on backwards" and other other such things
I'll just blame it on you makin' me drink too much.

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