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post #1 of 19 Old 08-23-2007, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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Poly Performance JK Trackbar Relocation Brackets----------> ***NOW AVAILABLE***

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-Heavy duty front & rear track bar bracket for the Jeep JK.
-This bracket raises the vehicles suspension roll center by 3.0".
-Raising the rollcenter reduces vehicle body roll and dramatically improves overall handling.
-Special bolt-on design strengthens the factory mount that is prone to failure.
-Laser cut from 3/16" steel & 2 stage powdercoat finish for maximum strength and durability.
--Designed to work with 3.0" to 4.5" lifts using the factory trackbar.

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so is this available? the website say November 1st but this was posted back in august.

I just had my front trackbar snap off the welds on the axle. is this something that would prevent that?
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I just had my front trackbar snap off the welds on the axle. is this something that would prevent that?
Yes. You will also need the front one if you are going to go with Poly's high steer drag link, which is a good idea on lifted JK's.
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I think I will be getting the rear.

To echo Skier06, are these now in stock and shipping?
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To echo Skier06, are these now in stock and shipping?
The latest I heard was Nov 1, but I'd imagine they will be catching up after SEMA for a couple of days. Hopefully they will be shipping this week though.
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When I ordered my front track bar relocation bracket to replace the one I all but folded after the welds on the factory brackets failed , Dave said a lot of things where in powder coating so I would think they will be shipping real soon.

I also wonder if Fox is back up and running after the fire storm near their facility?

I may be checking out some beefier control arms as well as I was doing some inspection this last weekend and one of my factory lower control arms has seen better days.
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When I ordered my front track bar relocation bracket to replace the one I all but folded after the welds on the factory brackets failed , Dave said a lot of things where in powder coating so I would think they will be shipping real soon.

I also wonder if Fox is back up and running after the fire storm near their facility?

I may be checking out some beefier control arms as well as I was doing some inspection this last weekend and one of my factory lower control arms has seen better days.
Just got a bunch of stuff back from powder coat today. All trackbar brackets, drag link kits, bumpstop kits, control arms and brake lines will be shipping this week.
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PIG, I'm hoping that you can help me out. I plan on getting either the stage I or stage II 3" kit, but am having problems figuring out the differences between the two kits. It seems that the Stage I gets a new front trackbar, while the Stage II uses the OEM trackbars with the relocation brackets front and rear. Also the Stage I has a steering stabilizer while the Stage II doesn't, nor does it have an option for one. I hate to say it, but I'm a wee bit confused.

If you could help shed some light on the differences, other than III is better than II, which is better than I....

... Well, I would be most appreciative.

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PIG, I'm hoping that you can help me out. I plan on getting either the stage I or stage II 3" kit, but am having problems figuring out the differences between the two kits. It seems that the Stage I gets a new front trackbar, while the Stage II uses the OEM trackbars with the relocation brackets front and rear. Also the Stage I has a steering stabilizer while the Stage II doesn't, nor does it have an option for one. I hate to say it, but I'm a wee bit confused.

If you could help shed some light on the differences, other than III is better than II, which is better than I....

... Well, I would be most appreciative.

Thanks -

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The Stage 1 kit get the adjustable front track bar while stage 2-3 kits use the track bar relocation brackets. The stage 2-3 kits definitely offer better performance because the suspension and steering geometry are improved. The difference between stage 2-3 kits is that the stage 3 kit come with adjustable upper control arms which are needed if you are doing aftermarket CV drivelines which we do recommend.

The stage 1 kit retains the factory position and mounting of the steering stabilizer. The stage 2-3 kits that use the trackbar relocation brackets allow the factory steering stabilizer to be rotated and clocked in a new position that is up and out of harms way. Let me see if I can find a good pic showing how it works.
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So, does the bracket replace this broken part or just work on top of it? In other words. What should I do to deal with this mess i have here?
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I can't say for sure so definatly wait for the Poly Performance guys to chime in here.

But the Poly Performance bracket will replace the factory bracket. The Poly Performance bracket uses U-bolts to attach to the axle. This would go over the factory part and therefore it wouldn't need to be used.

In this picture you can see the sway bar attachment on the left side of the picture.



So this piece will cover over the part you have broken off.

This is my guess as mine has not yet arrived to install.

Also, FWIW, I will be grinding off the factory parts I don't use/need anymore after the Poly Performance brackets get installed.

That was a clean break you have there. What were you doing? What else let go or was it just the factory bracket? Also noteworthy is that this is a welding failure and this caused a fatigue break. The welded flat bar on the bottom side of the axle looks like it just separated and left the bead behind. The flat bar probably shows little to no signs of welding in the form of tempering or other discoloration. Pretty much a typical break on the factory axle mounts that I have seen.

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The welded flat bar on the bottom side of the axle looks like it just separated and left the bead behind. The flat bar probably shows little to no signs of welding in the form of tempering or other discoloration. Pretty much a typical break on the factory axle mounts that I have seen.
Can't tell for sure, but it looks like he's got a axle end relocation bracket, which seem to be at the root of most of the breaks.
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I agree there is about a 2" trackbar extension in play. But look at this picture.



On the left hand side of the image you can see where the factory welds should have been on the "flat bar" part of the factory bracket. Look at how clean the break is. Also note that the steel is all uniform in color, ie no tempering. This separated piece looks like a freshly cut axle bracket that needs to be welded in place. So all the penetration on this butt weld was on the axle side. And I bet you could cold chisel off what is on the axle, there is so little penetration. Since the welding was so uniform and performed by robotic welders it would be very easy for the tip to have been directed from the seam of the butt to be placed more to the axle side. Now add just not enough heat and you have a classic no penetration looks good weld.

Although I freely admit that there was a bracket in use that added more leverage on this joint, this joint failed because of lack of weld penetration, not because of excessive force that should have "torn" the weld apart. This weld just was not adequate and this part more than likely would have failed eventually, even without a bracket or additional leverage.
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too bad I cant get the dealer to touch it.
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I agree about the welds, the ones on mine don't look that great, and they are definitely a weak point. I can see how mine would break in a very similar way, hence the reason I'm going with Poly brackets.

The axle relocation brackets just compound the problem and the extra leverage is just too much for the crappy factory welds to deal with.
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thanks everyone for there thoughts. I didnt intend for a "new product" thread to be a "resolve Nicks problem" thread, but maybe it will clear it up for others. SO if I understand correctly, could I simply bolt this new guy on right over the broken area and not bother with getting it re-welded? Thanks again. I am just trying to get my rig back on the road and no one will help (dealers)

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SO if I understand correctly, could I simply bolt this new guy on right over the broken area and not bother with getting it re-welded?
Someone from Poly can say for sure, but it looks to me like the Poly bracket bolts to the factory bracket, and I don't know if there will be enough support without that element to it.
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We do use the factory mount to locate our bracket, but it could probably still be used with your broken factory mount. If you lined it up properly, you could grind some of the powder coat from our bracket and weld it into location.

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