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Wayalife: Round w/e it's up to now.

So, I've been a member of WAYALIFE for a while. I always enjoyed the videos on YouTube. They all seemed like great people (and for the most part they are). Tack me up on the list of people who pissed off fearless leader Kim Jong Eddie (FL from here on)

He posted an email a customer sent him about not receiving a complete order. In all fairness, FL offered the guy a refund and he missed $0.50. Guy emails bitching about $0.50, it's refunded too. Little mistake w/e right... Eddie felt the need to toss this crap up on a public forum to get some sort of payback against the guy for saying his oversight of the full amount to refund seemed shoddy. You screwed up the guys order, then screwed up his refund. That is shoddy. "Something that is badly made or done". Yup works well here. But FL was butt hurt none the less.

The following was my comment on this issue:

"I get that mistakes happen sometimes. I feel like you did the right thing, offering a refund. He asked for the decals to just be sent, which I feel is also fair.

I don't get the point of you posting this up though. It's like those dog shaming photos you see everywhere. I get being upset, concerning his response to you, because that was a little bit out there...but this issue is between you, the owner, and him, your customer.

Seems a little childish/vindictive to post this up, after you reached a resolution with him.

I've been in and out of these forums and a WAL fan for years. Whether it was following some great builds, searching for solutions for little issues here and there, or watching the amazing JK Experience and other off-road videos. But now that I've made the attempt to be more active on the forums, I see a lot crazy stuff. It's like this site is reminiscent of an old western movie. What is there to gain from dragging him out into the street? For everyone to see you set an example? "Have an issue, or don't agree with something...let's see what the entire forum thinks"

Like the previous people stated, for those who understand all you and Cindy do for this group and how you two keep it running smooth...think this kind of reaction to a minor slip up is ridiculous. The ones who don't get that...don't matter. So there's no need to publicly shame this guy. Unless you just like publicly shaming people."

Fair statement right? Saying hey, your kinda being an ass overtly sensitive to this guy's mean words to you.

Needless to say FL and his minions jump all over me and call me numerous names, including self-righteous, while they crucify me disagreeing with them. The irony in this logic was only lost on them haha They say I'm being sensitive and dot get why I'm sticking up for this guy. According to what I said, saying he was overreacting and later calling him a douche for getting bent out of shape over $0.50, I thought I was talking about Eddie, not defending some random I don't even know. But I digress...

So this goes on, I even suck up my pride I send FL my phone number so he can call me and we can clear the air and move past all this. He refuses because he doesn't want to hear me preach to him. I was wanting to explain myself/thought process and apologize if he felt like I was attacking him. But he wouldn't do it. He banned me, but not before this happened:


Originally Posted by dwvninety:
It's getting late, and your mom needs to tuck you in since your getting cranky.

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She passed away 2 years ago, almost to the day...so I doubt that can happen. It's best not to mention someone's mom, as you don't know just how offensive that can be. Hope you feel wonderful about that comment now. You sure showed me huh? Asshole.

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This is the best news I have heard so far from your self righteous mouth. Glad she's not around to see how you have become a self proclaimed messiah. To bad the best part of your dad dripped down your mom's legs leaving your sorry ass inside of her..........good night asshole



This is acceptable on WAYALIFE, Eddie said nothing to him about it and left that comment showing. This is acceptable to that pretentious prick, but me saying that airing out your personal dirty laundry, of customer interactions, isn't professional is enough to get me kicked off the forum. Why? Because it's "MINE AND I CAN DO AND SAY WHATEVER I WANT".

You can read it all yourself right here:

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?4...ou-fired/page2



And here's the original thread he posted the convo with the customer (they moved them because more people were arguing with me than saying he was right):

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?4...ot-shoddy-quot

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That's pretty pathetic...It has to take a lot of effort to maintain that level of doucheness all these years. Fucking prick.

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It's a dog pile mentality over there all it takes is for one to bark the others just start piling on. If you've been a member there you'll see this weekly, it shouldn't take long to realize how it is.


You must of really got under his skin, he banned you.

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I hope you have a chance to meet dwvninety someday without a keyboard for him to hide behind.
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I'd heard some pretty fucked up stuff on the internet before, but I think that comment takes the cake.

He describes getting a cum shot so poetically, like he knows how to take them. Probably has taken a few from the ole lemmings..

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At least you are out of that group, too bad he will keep you a member but not activate you so he can earn more on advertising sales. I have read a couple threads over there and have meet DL and a couple of the minions ( they live in the next town over) and know I would last about 2 posts there before getting the ban hammer.

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At least you are out of that group, too bad he will keep you a member but not activate you so he can earn more on advertising sales. I have read a couple threads over there and have meet DL and a couple of the minions ( they live in the next town over) and know I would last about 2 posts there before getting the ban hammer.
Surprisingly Eddie Banned Him.... as I said earlier he must of really gotten under his skin.

Of course aWIGHTguy did dig up one racist, however they won't look at it that way, if you didn't read that part,

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It's ok though I get it. Game of thrones uses the same spelling for their Wight Walkers. Meaning undead monster, and I take offense to that relation as well haha

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Yes he bans people but keeps them as members to pad his numbers. He did the same thing on JK-forum when he owned it. He is just looking for the next big payoff like he got there.Thats all fine and good but people need to realize DL does not care a bit about the jeeping community, just the money he can make off it and the celebrity status it give him.

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I hope you have a chance to meet dwvninety someday without a keyboard for him to hide behind.

Me too, it's real easy to be a tough guy on the internet. It's another to have the steel to say even half of that to my face. The best revenge is knowing that one day this punk is gonna be standing at the pearly gates and he'll have to answer for comments like this.

I think that's the big disconnect I had with those jerkoffs. I was raised in small town where it was considered common decency to keep private things private, and not to use your position of influence to put other people down. I guess people don't like it when you walk into "their house" and tell them that public hangings aren't tolerated these days. Because that's all FL was doing. There was nothing to gain from showing off a convo he had with a customer, other than publicly ridiculing him. But calling him on his BS makes me self-righteous. How does anyone comment on another's actions then???

I'm over it. I hope they all sleep well tonight having enjoyed sucking at the tit, while keeping silent concerning the disgusting comments their members make.


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I'd heard some pretty fucked up stuff on the internet before, but I think that comment takes the cake.

He describes getting a cum shot so poetically, like he knows how to take them. Probably has taken a few from the ole lemmings..
He pretty much stole that line from Full Metal Jacket. Not original, but can't discount his OWN experiences.

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I am amazed at some of the comments they make to people. Especially coming from someone that is running a business. Honestly their attitudes over there would prevent me from buying from some vendors.
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Unfortunately, me and the Dirtman live fairly close to Eddie (he still uses his kid name, cute!) I was banned and I'm proud of it. I also stood up for someone that was being reamed. Luckily I was able to tell pony tail dude exactly what I thought of him on his site for everyone to see before getting the boot ! lol
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I too am new here and recently left WAL. The info they have is great but the dictator attitude sucks. "This is my house and if you don't like it, help yourself to the door" is bullshit.

Hope to figure out how to use this forum. This forum seems to have more categories than WAL.

Is this forum larger than WAL? Seems like they have 30k members but only the same 10-15 respond and flame members that don't agree with them.
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I too am new here and recently left WAL. The info they have is great but the dictator attitude sucks. "This is my house and if you don't like it, help yourself to the door" is bullshit.

Hope to figure out how to use this forum. This forum seems to have more categories than WAL.

Is this forum larger than WAL? Seems like they have 30k members but only the same 10-15 respond and flame members that don't agree with them.
I thought that they were larger in terms of registered users but not sure because I won't give that place any clicks. We are over 50,000 here but just like with any forum in 2017, the population of those that actually post is significantly lower. Main difference here is that we WANT there to be debate and discussion regarding any and all kinds of stock to wildly modified tech and every kind of homemade and industry-level innovation in between. Regular users around here know that tech is a sacred place... not to be muddied up with off-topic nonsense nor trolling. There is no bias here when it comes to tech... I mean there are fans of particular companies and particular products but we don't censor nor do we allow misinformation to run amok. Here on jowners, our tech people are just about the best to be found anywhere on the interwebz. Chat section and subsequent off-topic threads are sometimes pretty rough when it comes to certain topics but we've always maintained the suggestion that if you're going to engage in passionate topics like politics, that you come prepared for lively banter and that you have a thick-skin. Forums in general have slowed down from what they were some years ago but no matter how large or small... this is a community of true Jeepers first and foremost... not a Jim Jones themed lemming recruiting-camp.

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I am amazed at some of the comments they make to people. Especially coming from someone that is running a business. Honestly their attitudes over there would prevent me from buying from some vendors.
Exactly why I buy nothing that is EVO. Mel was so far up his ass at the time I now not only don't buy anything EVO, I will go out of my way to persuade others from buying anything EVO.
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Yes he bans people but keeps them as members to pad his numbers. He did the same thing on JK-forum when he owned it. He is just looking for the next big payoff like he got there.Thats all fine and good but people need to realize DL does not care a bit about the jeeping community, just the money he can make off it and the celebrity status it give him.
Its funny you mentioned that, I ran into a guy about 2 years ago down here in TX. I bought some parts from him that I found on craigslist. Of course we talked jeeps for a minute, and he went on to tell me what a crook eddie was and how he basically fucked him over big time on some sort of financial deal they were partners on. It was something to do with jk-forum.
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Exactly why I buy nothing that is EVO. Mel was so far up his ass at the time I now not only don't buy anything EVO, I will go out of my way to persuade others from buying anything EVO.


I couldn't agree more on what everyone is saying about Eddie. I have dealt with him personally and he's about as arrogant as it gets. Mel on the other hand is not. Have you dealt with him one on one? I have, and he is anything but arrogant. He always goes out of his way for the customer. Even if that means using parts that aren't his. If he was kissing up to Eddie it was because he wanted his business to get known.
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I couldn't agree more on what everyone is saying about Eddie. I have dealt with him personally and he's about as arrogant as it gets. Mel on the other hand is not. Have you dealt with him one on one? I have, and he is anything but arrogant. He always goes out of his way for the customer. Even if that means using parts that aren't his. If he was kissing up to Eddie it was because he wanted his business to go known.
I went to Mel when Ed-tardo gave me his "You're an asshole" ban page to let him know how he is treating potential customers. Mel banned me from his FB page and never discussed anything with me. He may not be arrogant...but that action cost him business. From me and the many others I recommend to not buy his stuff.

Northridge on the other hand, David reached out to me, asked me to call him...and we talked for 20 minutes about the shit going on. I still buy from Northridge today.
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