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Denny's to charge 5% ACA surcharge

Let's see how the libtards feel about Obamacare when all businesses start charging surcharge, and cutting employee hours below 30 per week. The cost of everything is getting ready to go up, and a lot more people are going to drop below the poverty line.


Denny's to charge 5% 'Obamacare surcharge' and cut employee hours to deal with cost of legislation
President Obama's election victory ensured his Affordable Care Act would remain the centerpiece of his first term in power - but that has left some business owners baulking at the extra cost Obamcare will bring.

Florida based restaurant boss John Metz, who runs approximately 40 Denny's and owns the Hurricane Grill & Wings franchise has decided to offset that by adding a five percent surcharge to customers' bills and will reduce his employees' hours.

With Obamacare due to be fully implemented in January 2014, Metz has justified his move by claiming it is 'the only alternative. I've got to pass on the cost to the customer.'

The fast-food business owner is set to hold meetings at his restaurants in December where he will tell employees, 'that because of Obamacare, we are going to be cutting front-of-the-house employees to under 30 hours, effective immediately.'

'I think it's a terrible thing. It's ridiculous that the maximum hours we can give people is 28 hours a week instead of 40,' said Metz to the Huffington Post.

'It's going to force my employees to go out and get a second job.'

Obamacare requires businesses or franchises with more than 50 workers must offer an approved insurance plan or pay a penalty of $2,000 for each full-time worker over 30 workers.

The program mandates that only employees working more than 30 hours a week are covered under their employers health insurance plan, chains like Olive Garden and Red Lobster are already considering reduced worker hours.

'Obviously, I'd love to cover all our employees under that insurance,' said Metz.

'But to pay $5,000 per employee would cost us $175,000 per restaurant and unfortunately, most of our restaurants don't make $175,000 a year. I can't afford it.'


Several other restaurants including Papa John's, Apple Metro and Jimmy John's have announced plans to skirt Obamacare by reducing employees hours to make them part-time.

Indeed, Metz is adding the surcharge because he believes that eventually firms will be fined for not covering staff who complete over 30-hours in a week,

In November, a poll for Kaiser Health Tracking found that 43 percent of the United States had a favourable opinion of Obamcare, while 39-percent had an unfavourable one.

'Instead of indirectly charging customers by raising prices, he is directly charging and making a political statement,' said Paul Fronstin, director of the health research program at the Employee Benefit Research Institute in Washington.

'Potentially 43 percent of this person's customers may find the explicit charge a turnoff, and vote with their feet and their money and choose not to eat there.'

Despite this, Metz has admitted he is willing to take the heat should the decision backfire on him.

'We're trying to get more restaurant operators rallied around the concept of adding a 5 percent surcharge to their bill to cover the costs of Obamacare as opposed to raising prices,' he said.

Earlier this week Papa John's CEO John Schnatter told shareholders in a conference call this week that Obamacare would cost the company 11 to 14 cents per pizza, a cost that would be passed on to customers.


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I don't eat out that much. One way or another someone is paying the tax, because that's what it is a tax, for obamascare.

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Announcement is too late to matter and I don't give a shit. The employees are in a income range that went for Obama anyway. Fuck 'em!

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GIVE ME FREE HEALTH CARE OBAMA. OH you mean my boss has to pay for it, it's not free. Hahahah, oh well fuck him he makes lots of money anyway he can afford it. Um I don't understand, you're cutting my hours, because if I get free health care it will put you out of business, but it's the Obama AFFORDABLE health care plan. Oh yeah well fuck you I quit. I'll go join the bakers union and work for Hostess. Oh wait what the fuck.

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I don't eat out that much. One way or another someone is paying the tax, because that's what it is a tax, for obamascare.
That's exactly right. And all taxes get passed to the consumer. Denny's is setting the stage for what is coming for everything.
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In a world where karma takes time to catch up with people, for once I see it slapping Obama voters across the face surprisingly fast. I love it.

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FWIW Olive Garden, Longhorn steakhouse, and Krispy Kreme all support local soup kitchens so if things go bad and all the food service industry starts cutting hours consider those choices.
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My local chamber of commerce has been planning Obamacare survival for a while now, as well as the coming tax increases.

I plan on laying off 11 employees and permanently keep my workforce at 49. I am going to automate a couple of jobs, cut back on one particular service, and sub-contract much of my trucking. This is the only way I can maintain a profit margin good enough to keep the employees happy and sustain the business. This sucks because I was about to expand my business and grow to new markets, but now that is not worth the effort.

Many other small businesses in my county are going to scale back to 49 or keep a part-time workforce.

My prediction: You will soon see a huge resurgence of low-paid temporary labor. Businesses being artificially forced to scale back labor and hours will result in much higher prices for goods and services. All of these idiots who supported Obama are about to sleep in the bed they made - and it is a bed of shit.
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All this makes me sick. I see the US economy slipping back into a deep recession.

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All of these jobs getting cut back to part time will allow more hiring. Which in the Obama book is considering "creating jobs." Then he and his cronies can go on and on about how they double the work force in this country over the next few years, even though it's the same amount of people working but they just have two lower paying jobs now. The sheeple will believe he is the coming of Christ and will then support whoever he endorses as his successor.

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This sucks because I was about to expand my business and grow to new markets, but now that is not worth the effort.
Can you start an LLC or new CO. for the new markets and move some employees there?

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Can you start an LLC or new CO. for the new markets and move some employees there?
Not easily and depends on how you have your business structured. For example, if you are an s-corp you can create LLCs all day, but have to file as DBA (doing business as, in other words s-corp doing business as LLC). Depending on how you've registered with the feds, all that gets rolled up into the parent company. So if the S-corp has 30 employees and the LLC has 20....your company still has 50 employees.

There are some creative ways to make the best of this but I'm sure the JEF administration will block some of those pathways.

We've all seen the political collective lie through its teeth endlessly, but there is no doubt that despite his words the President has zero interest in championing small business - we've seen that through his actions. It's only going to get worse, and my guess is that since punitive taxation now has the blessing of the Supreme Court in the form of Obamacare, there will be more punitive taxation on the way in the form of punishing the guys like us who try to take the horribly unethical approach of staying profitable.

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I read this with the movie theatre trailer guy's voice in my head, which made it even better.

Sad part, it's gonna slap more than just the obama supporters this time around. Between his policies and appointing kerry to sec def, it's clear as a bell that ol bama is just getting warmed up.
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I don't get it does this mean the current employees of Denny's do not have healthcare? Who currently pays when they get sick?
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