These pics were posted on a local forum:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/no2hud/DSC00071.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/no2hud/DSC00065.jpg

Is it me, or is the drivers side tires facing one way, and the passenger tires are facing the opposite?

Is it me, or is the drivers side tires facing one way, and the passenger tires are facing the opposite?

They are supposed to be that way... the narrow area is supposed to be toward the inside, that's how they were designed & tested the best at least.

Are they on sale yet or just R&D?

certain tire sizes are available. I think the 37x12.5 r17 will be available April 1st.

Maybe it's an optical illusion, but they look to me like a v-tread. Something like a claw or x-terrain.

That's what I was refering to one side looks like it's facing forward, and the other side is facing the other way.

Maybe it's an optical illusion, but they look to me like a v-tread. Something like a claw or x-terrain.

That's what I was refering to one side looks like it's facing forward, and the other side is facing the other way.

They do face the opposite way, but most tires do that. It's just not as obvious on other tires as your eyes want to follow that V. But according to testing, it makes no difference how you run them.

Any evidence that the kevlar sidewalls are showing a benefit?

My buddy @ goodyear says a big improvement and that they haven't been able to cut one on the trail yet! Technically, I think they say 35% improvement. I personally think the old mt/r's had the strongest "streetable" sidewall previously so any improvement will far exceed other radial tires!

A really good friend of mine is a manager at Discount tire out here, he said these are going to be a great tire, he has worked at Discount for quite a while and i value his opinion. He ordered a set for his Ram 2500, hopefully i can check them out next week!

By the way if any of you Colorado guys need tires let me know and i will give you his info, he is a fellow wheeler and takes care of his own kind!

They do face the opposite way, but most tires do that. It's just not as obvious on other tires as your eyes want to follow that V. But according to testing, it makes no difference how you run them.

ok, I understand now. Seems like it would be a good idea to offer left and right versions then like some v-tread tires.

Didn't anyone take picts of these head on? These diagonal pictures are all photogenic and such, but a head on would sure be a nice view too. Goodyear doesn't even post up any on their site.

ok, I understand now. Seems like it would be a good idea to offer left and right versions then like some v-tread tires.


Thats why I don't really like them. They look directional even though they say they are not. I think directional tires are good, I just like having the option of rotating the tires all around and using my spare without having to shift tires around

The first time I looked at the tread I didn't like them, but I was talking to some guys at Katemcy, that really know their stuff, that had the opportunity to test these. They said they were up there with Krawlers in terms of traction. The lower part of the sidewall flexes greatly, but the upper part (next to the rim) does not flex anywhere near as much. As a result, things like popped beads, damaged rims, etc, will be minimized.

As much as I've been impressed with KM2's, I'm sorely tempted to try some of these when the 37x12.50x17's come out, which I was told will be in the next week or so.

Although they may look it they are not directional, and supposedly work as well facing either way.

Didn't anyone take picts of these head on? These diagonal pictures are all photogenic and such, but a head on would sure be a nice view too. Goodyear doesn't even post up any on their site.This is the nearest I've seen to a head on pic, which is certainly close enough to give you the idea:

http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/img/catalog/customTabPanes/wranglerMTRKevlar/wallpaper/MudJeep800x600.jpg

I bet thjey work really well. The biggest problem with A/t's is they gum up in mud. That picture shows the A/T strip gummed up but the voids are still self cleaning.

The biggest problem with M/T's is they don't have good traction on flat and slick like icy/wet roads. That strip down the middle will certainly help there.

I have also heard the sidewalls are nice as far as hardness.

Still just not for me, at least not yet. They will probably grow on me after a while

Thats why I don't really like them. They look directional even though they say they are not. I think directional tires are good, I just like having the option of rotating the tires all around and using my spare without having to shift tires around

Since one side points one way and the other backwards, that wouldn't affect rotating the tires.

Thanks Phil,
I was actually hoping for one with both fronts in view. I just wanted to see how weird they really look. I'll really know in a couple of weeks. :smokin:

I'm sure they work well. Just imagine how many people on the trail will be asking why one side is pointing one way and the other side is pointing the other.

Whether they work equally well either way or not, I would still like a right and left version. Then you can rotate them side to side and have them facing either way but at least all 4 will still be facing the same direction. I just don't like how they are opposite each other.

I bet thjey work really well. The biggest problem with A/t's is they gum up in mud. That picture shows the A/T strip gummed up but the voids are still self cleaning.

The biggest problem with M/T's is they don't have good traction on flat and slick like icy/wet roads. That strip down the middle will certainly help there.

I have also heard the sidewalls are nice as far as hardness.

Still just not for me, at least not yet. They will probably grow on me after a while

My KM2's sucked on the ice until I siped'em. I'm thinking I'll sipe these too before I put them on. If you're wondering why decided to go with these, I've sliced the sidewalls of the KM2's twice now. I'm hoping going with Kevlar will help me out with that. Plus it was time for some 35's anyway.

I was actually hoping for one with both fronts in view.Drink enough so you have double vision then quickly turn your head upside down and squint and you'll get a good idea :D

Drink enough so you have double vision then quickly turn your head upside down and squint and you'll get a good idea :D

Whoa! And I thought the cops asking me to say the alphabet backwards was tough. :beer:

I'm sure they work well. Just imagine how many people on the trail will be asking why one side is pointing one way and the other side is pointing the other.I'm sure you'll get people saying "You've got your tires on backwards" and other other such things :shaking:

I'm sure you'll get people saying "You've got your tires on backwards" and other other such things :shaking:

I'll just blame it on you makin' me drink too much.:laughing:

I'll just blame it on you makin' me drink too much.:laughing::D :D :D

I hope they perform better than they look. Those things are hideous. They look like knock off Kumho MT's:shaking:

why couldn't u just flip the tire around? I'm guessing if its that important pay the bucks to have them remounted then rotated?? Or mount them in opposite directions and then rotate side to side? ?:hmph:

http://www.hof4x4.com/100_0053a.JPG

http://www.hof4x4.com/100_0053a.JPG

hahhah,.....welcome to the dark side!

MTR = Mall Trail Rated :thefinger:

I have the KM2's on my 2500 GMC 4x4 and i got the sipe'd and they have worked great this year. Although most of you don't know but Colorado is closer to Florida's climate this year. If I did pick up these i would sipe them, i am a strong believer in that now that i have it.

hahhah,.....welcome to the dark side!

Hey! look at my join date buddy...a full year before you! But i think i have like 5 posts here.

Hey! look at my join date buddy...a full year before you! But i think i have like 5 posts here.

Lol....Whio's jeep is that pic from?

I think it's a great looking tire, really curious to see how the side walls perform.

Found it on another site

I hope they perform better than they look. Those things are hideous. They look like knock off Kumho MT's:shaking:I think they're funny looking but not hideous...
It looks like they're really trying to hammer home the notion that it's a mud/AT hybrid and the visual uniqueness exaggerates that. And they're arguing that it's the most puncture-resistant yet?
Let me see them prove it. Maybe fire some bird shot at the sidewall with a 12 gauge at 20 feet or something...

I'd like to try them.

I think some of you guys are missing the big picture here and getting hung up on what they look like. Like anything new, they will grow on you as you see them more.

The big picture is that Goodyear is thinking way outside the box here and straying away from the traditional. Our sport is constantly evolving and it's nice to see manufacturers stepping up. Most of us drive are rigs to the trail so it is important to have a tire that works great on and off road.

Whether is proves to be a success or not, I applaud Goodyear for their innovation.

I'm more of a function guy before form. However, having the tires essentially point in different directions bothers me.

If they work so well either direction, what would be so hard making an opposite tire so you can have all 4 point the same way?

I'm more of a function guy before form. However, having the tires essentially point in different directions bothers me.

If they work so well either direction, what would be so hard making an opposite tire so you can have all 4 point the same way?

I think it would be quite a bit harder, since they have the AT stripe you'd need to double the molds to make them go the same way and plus, this would much harder for people to rotate, that's always been a problem with claws, never could get even wear out of them.

You could easily flip the tire so that the visual V goes the same way, the narrow band would then be toward the outside of the tire. In fact, I've heard that if you cut out one of the narrow blocks all the way around, they'd put it up against a bogger in mud performance!

While there is a visual V, it is not really that much different than most tires. Look at the Cooper STT or Toyo MT, they also have a very noticable V.

I think some of you guys are missing the big picture here and getting hung up on what they look like. Like anything new, they will grow on you as you see them more.

The big picture is that Goodyear is thinking way outside the box here and straying away from the traditional. Our sport is constantly evolving and it's nice to see manufacturers stepping up. Most of us drive are rigs to the trail so it is important to have a tire that works great on and off road.

Whether is proves to be a success or not, I applaud Goodyear for their innovation.

I agree completely! Although, the guys I wheel with(who have wheeled the tires) say they ARE going to be a success!

If they would send me a set, I'd be glad to field test them in the sharp rocks up here. I see people frag the current version of the MTR all the time up here. I cut a sidewall first time out with mine. Hell, the rocks here are hard on TSLs!:thefinger:

...the 37x12.50x17's come out, which I was told will be in the next week or so.Just found out that 37's went into production on March 2 and will be available in 4-6 weeks.

Another reason for me to get that lift!

Another reason for me to get that lift!

Like you needed one. :shaking:




:beer:

Just found out that 37's went into production on March 2 and will be available in 4-6 weeks.

Whats their overall Diameter?

Whats their overall Diameter?36.8" seems to ring a bell, but can't say for sure. A lot will depend on rim width, psi, load on them, etc, but I doubt it will be 37" as most 37's measure 35-36" when mounted and on the vehicle.

36.8" seems to ring a bell, but can't say for sure. A lot will depend on rim width, psi, load on them, etc, but I doubt it will be 37" as most 37's measure 35-36" when mounted and on the vehicle.

Just looked it up & you are correct Phil!

you are correct Phil!Even a broken clock is right twice a day :D

Even a broken clock is right twice a day :D

LOL, I am going to have to remember that...:grinpimp:

Nice looking tire.

they're ok, like the directional tread design but the sidewalls are lacking bigtime. Pictures do little justice sometimes though.