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PIG
02-09-2009, 04:46 PM
Well here you go..... The 2 door just came back from a weekend of testing at Johnson Valley............

PIG
02-09-2009, 04:47 PM
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PIG
02-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Running for 2.5 reservoir shock all the way around with the prototype 2.0" FOX air bumps in the front...

a-squared
02-09-2009, 04:49 PM
um....

When, how much? And action pics please.....

a-squared
02-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Interesting sideways mount for the upper arm(s).....

RotorHead
02-09-2009, 05:22 PM
Interesting sideways mount for the upper arm(s).....

Yeah, how's that work? :confused:

505JK
02-09-2009, 05:38 PM
Interesting sideways mount for the upper arm(s).....

X3??? :confused:

Further away pics???

Action pics???

HITMONEY
02-09-2009, 05:57 PM
Interesting sideways mount for the upper arm(s).....

X4.. with a normal looking bushing?? How does that articulate?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Matt
02-09-2009, 06:08 PM
It articulates fine mounted like that because there isn't much movement there.
My guess is its some sort of cartridge joint judging by the grease zerk.

PIG
02-09-2009, 06:57 PM
It articulates fine mounted like that because there isn't much movement there.
My guess is its some sort of cartridge joint judging by the grease zerk.

Yes....

LoPo
02-09-2009, 08:09 PM
Is the rear end a trilink or is that a narrow mount for the upper arms?

PIG
02-09-2009, 09:17 PM
Is the rear end a trilink or is that a narrow mount for the upper arms?

Yes, single upper link...

LoPo
02-09-2009, 09:22 PM
Yes, single upper link...

What's Poly's thought behind that? Isn't Rock Krawler the only other co. doing this? Does it provide an advantage over a 4 link?

505JK
02-10-2009, 05:28 AM
I think the advantage in relation to the JK is avoiding the gas tank but I'd like to hear if there is any performance gains.

a-squared
02-10-2009, 08:52 AM
Bump for my boner.....

GOAT1
02-10-2009, 09:19 AM
The front upper link joints are vertical like that to squeeze it between the cat/exhaust and the frame, you can fit a joint flat there but you cannot get the bolt in or out. We are using a Johnny joint there, it has plenty of angle for that application.

There is a single rear upper link, mostly for packaging, there is no room outside of the frame to make the rear upper arms much longer, they are too short IMO if you put them outside the frame like others do. Performance wise there is no real difference, a 3 link+track bar can work better than a 4 or 5 link if the geometry is right. A link suspension system needs a total of 4 links to constrain it, 3 + track bar or 4 with 2 of them triangulated. The stock jeep is a 5 link and is overconstrained so the bushings and arms have to deflect a lot to keep it from binding. A 3 link +track bar will articulate a little easier.

Here is a shot of the upper link mount

Last is a shot at the top of Jackhammer

a-squared
02-10-2009, 09:39 AM
Any action pics that show it flexing better than what my budget boost can already do?

stroke it a little....give me the good stuff...

GOAT1
02-10-2009, 09:45 AM
Any action pics that show it flexing better than what my budget boost can already do?

stroke it a little....give me the good stuff...

The flex all depends on the length of the shocks, this kit used the same shocks as our other kits. Difference is ride, handling and performance of the better link geometry.

a-squared
02-10-2009, 09:55 AM
k, Cool. Thanks. Keep going with this...the potential is pretty impressive.

505JK
02-10-2009, 01:58 PM
The front upper link joints are vertical like that to squeeze it between the cat/exhaust and the frame, you can fit a joint flat there but you cannot get the bolt in or out. We are using a Johnny joint there, it has plenty of angle for that application.



If you can fit a joint in there in the flat position, why not drill a hole through the frame and insert the bolt from the outer side of the frame and have the nut on the side of the cat/exhaust? You could even sleeve the hole through the frame if you wanted.

GOAT1
02-10-2009, 02:09 PM
If you can fit a joint in there in the flat position, why not drill a hole through the frame and insert the bolt from the outer side of the frame and have the nut on the side of the cat/exhaust? You could even sleeve the hole through the frame if you wanted.

Yeah you could but it works just fine this way, drilling holes in the frame is a PITA, there are no other holes to drill for the rest of the kit.

a-squared
02-10-2009, 02:12 PM
Any plans for a four door kit? Or a brackets and arms only kit?

GOAT1
02-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Any plans for a four door kit? Or a brackets and arms only kit?

It should be all the same parts, works for both. We just did it on the 2 dr first because we are racing it in the King of the Hammers race in 2 weeks.

a-squared
02-10-2009, 02:22 PM
what class is your rig going to race in?

GOAT1
02-10-2009, 02:39 PM
There are not classes for KOH, its all pretty much unlimited. We will start a new thread for that soon, but we are running our 2 dr JK with only all available aftermarket parts. Mostly our stuff with Currie rock jocks and 39" Krawlers.

SDMF
02-10-2009, 02:41 PM
Hey goat, are you running those shocks for KOH or something with more travel?

GOAT1
02-10-2009, 02:53 PM
Those shocks, about 11-12" of travel. We could mount longer ones but trying to stick with off the shelf parts that any one could easily buy and install.

SDMF
02-10-2009, 02:55 PM
Those shocks, about 11-12" of travel. We could mount longer ones but trying to stick with off the shelf parts that any one could easily buy and install.

What's the length on them?

Your jeep is looking killer btw. Looking forward to seeing it at KOH.

O2BDrty
02-11-2009, 04:49 AM
Are thoses rock hard 4x4 skid plates on there? If so I know it will fit mine.

PhilD
02-11-2009, 06:36 AM
I like the dog legged control arms. You see a lot of these on custom rigs and I started with RockRunner arms before switching to Poly as I liked the dog leg in them.

I seem to be a in a minority, but I'm very happy with the flex/ride/etc I get out of stock length arms.

That said I do like the looks of this :smokin:

PIG
02-11-2009, 08:23 AM
I seem to be a in a minority, but I'm very happy with the flex/ride/etc I get out of stock length arms.


Stock length arms are totally fine for the most part... However, from our research it seemed that alot of guys out there we not even considering our suspension stuff because there was no long arm stuff available...

LowRider
02-11-2009, 08:33 AM
Are thoses rock hard 4x4 skid plates on there? If so I know it will fit mine.

I don't know if your kidding or not, but no, my guess is they are Poly Performance skid plates since it is their Jeep.

paragon
02-11-2009, 11:19 AM
Stock length arms are totally fine for the most part... However, from our research it seemed that alot of guys out there we not even considering our suspension stuff because there was no long arm stuff available...

interesting, I'm sure that "idea" is left over from the TJ days

100dollarman
02-11-2009, 12:24 PM
It should be all the same parts, works for both. We just did it on the 2 dr first because we are racing it in the King of the Hammers race in 2 weeks.



GOAT- Is your JK the only real 'Jeep' in the race? I havent seen any others. That will be cool to see!

I also like the bent arm design!:cool:

GOAT1
02-11-2009, 02:25 PM
GOAT- Is your JK the only real 'Jeep' in the race? I havent seen any others. That will be cool to see!

I also like the bent arm design!:cool:

It probably is but I haven't really seen who or what is all entered.

PIG
02-11-2009, 04:12 PM
interesting, I'm sure that "idea" is left over from the TJ days

I am sure it is.... but hey, whatcha gonna do. I have tried to explain it to several people that have called me about it but the whole LA thing is just beat into their heads and won't let it go....

lbh
02-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Pig--will you be making and "upgrade kit" for those of us running the stage 3 Synergy system?

I must say, I have not seen any disadvantage of my "regular length" set up, but I was a bit intrigued at Goats comment about ride quality. What is the big picture, is this going to be a coil over application as well.

I am amazed, the JK crowd seems to have a lot more money than the TJ crowd I run with!!!! I am amazed at the cash some guys are pouring into these rigs.

lbh
02-11-2009, 09:47 PM
Also, while on the topic, anybody know off hand the length difference between the TJ long Arm system vs the JK control arms?

PIG
02-11-2009, 10:17 PM
Pig--will you be making and "upgrade kit" for those of us running the stage 3 Synergy system?


YES!

2K8_CON
02-12-2009, 05:51 AM
That kit looks sweet. Do you have any other action pictures to drool over?

qqq
02-12-2009, 03:59 PM
newbie here from motreal frenc guy so not sure if you gone be able to read are many incs is the long arms and will it come white the skill plate and evryting and went can i order i have your stering kit and i love it very nice stuf thank for the info

O2BDrty
02-12-2009, 09:02 PM
I don't know if your kidding or not, but no, my guess is they are Poly Performance skid plates since it is their Jeep.

No I was serious. I want to get this kit but don't want to lose my skid plates either.

md_rubi
02-13-2009, 12:33 PM
There are not classes for KOH, its all pretty much unlimited. We will start a new thread for that soon, but we are running our 2 dr JK with only all available aftermarket parts. Mostly our stuff with Currie rock jocks and 39" Krawlers.


sounds like something I want for my 4 door. what size lift do you have?

GOAT1
02-13-2009, 01:48 PM
sounds like something I want for my 4 door. what size lift do you have?

We will have this in a 4.5" lift for a 4 dr, maybe a 6"

Alec W
02-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Taking the sales hat off, would you recommend an existing stage III owner upgrade to the LA kit control arms? I assume at 4.5” control arms are all that’s need to upgrade?

GOAT1
02-13-2009, 02:34 PM
Taking the sales hat off, would you recommend an existing stage III owner upgrade to the LA kit control arms? I assume at 4.5” control arms are all that’s need to upgrade?

Yes you would only need the frame brackets and control arms. I think they work pretty well with the short arm, I haven't had a chance to test it on a regular JK with regular shocks yet. I suspect it will ride a little smoother and climb ledges a little better with the long arm.

redneckhouston
02-14-2009, 09:25 AM
It should be all the same parts, works for both. We just did it on the 2 dr first because we are racing it in the King of the Hammers race in 2 weeks.


wow....just wow...........

i take it ya'll will be running inthe lcq thursday?
ya got to post video of it flying up backdoor and live coverage of the race on jko


and i thought i was the only one doing comp events in a jk

GOAT1
02-14-2009, 02:35 PM
wow....just wow...........

i take it ya'll will be running inthe lcq thursday?
ya got to post video of it flying up backdoor and live coverage of the race on jko


and i thought i was the only one doing comp events in a jk

Not in the LCQ, I have 14th starting position. I raced last year in my CJ, finished 12th.

shaggydoo
02-14-2009, 02:37 PM
wow....just wow...........

i take it ya'll will be running inthe lcq thursday?
ya got to post video of it flying up backdoor and live coverage of the race on jko


and i thought i was the only one doing comp events in a jk

Returning competitors don't do the LCQ, IIRC. Drew raced his personal rig last year.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=392893&stc=1&d=1222319209

qqq
02-19-2009, 01:14 PM
1200 clicks so now:beer:

paragon
02-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Not in the LCQ, I have 14th starting position. I raced last year in my CJ, finished 12th.

we need to make sure that coverage of this first-ever Jeep JK competing in the King of the Hammers get's some read time over at Jk-forum:devil:

LowRider
03-03-2009, 11:33 AM
How did the suspension do out their?

PIG
03-04-2009, 10:36 PM
How did the suspension do out their?

It kicked ass...

a-squared
03-05-2009, 06:46 AM
It kicked ass...

Such a tease....you're like a morman escort.


For the love of all that is jeep, package some stuff and sell it to us. :mr-t:

lbh
03-24-2009, 04:15 PM
bump

stralph
03-24-2009, 10:19 PM
Yes, single upper link...

I also changed my Rubicon lift like that a long time ago because the upper arms in the back failed toomany times, so I removed them.I used a tj lower long arm in the middle of the rear axle as my upper arm.

a-squared
03-25-2009, 04:13 PM
Such a tease....you're like a morman escort.


For the love of all that is jeep, package some stuff and sell it to us. :mr-t:

now you have to read this again....

qqq
04-12-2009, 11:15 AM
any news on production
:grinpimp:

TriSurfer25
04-17-2009, 11:32 PM
any updates? :bounce:

Unreal JK
04-20-2009, 10:12 AM
That looks alot like in concept like the Rock Krawler long arm system I just put in, but their mounts seem to provide better ground clearance than the ones you are showing. Their front upper joints are oriented in the other direction as well which seems better to me, but will mine be a problem? In the rear it is very similar, but their three link in the rear runs right down the middle to the weld on truss and has the adjustable anti-squat right there. How are you guys attaching the rear upper to the axle? Is this something I should be looking at? I am trying to be cutting edge, that is why I went with the Rock Krawler kit to begin with.

Rock Krawler Suspension
04-23-2009, 11:33 AM
One of our customers told us about this setup and wanted us to get on here and bash Poly, well, in fact it is quite the opposite. We are happy to see other companies stepping outside the box and running the independent three link design. We have been doing so since 2003! It works awesome. That is why Poly has done so. Poly has been offering it in their builder kits for quite some time. It is just great to see other companies bringing new suspension designs to the table. Not just because we have done it for years, but because it works!

OK, enough of being nice to Poly. Back to work Drew (nice job). Dave, take your feet off your desk and get something done today. Lia, well, just be lia and take care of Fred for god sakes.

How many companies have you seen copy RE's radius arm setup? The number is countless, but yet RE was the pioneer of that system. OK, well Black Diamond with the old coil over conversions in the YJ's, but RE was really the company to bring it to the forefront with the TJ.

Rock Krawler Suspension.

crypnite
10-09-2009, 04:57 PM
tap tap

;)

HITMONEY
10-09-2009, 04:58 PM
Funny that you bumped this thread.....

crypnite
10-09-2009, 05:00 PM
It's why I bumped it...

Living Still
10-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Yep, any news on a 4door kit? :bounce:

~Casey

Big A
10-09-2009, 05:19 PM
Me thinks this will be seen at ORE

a-squared
10-09-2009, 05:46 PM
there's long arm stuff up on their site....

Living Still
10-09-2009, 05:56 PM
there's long arm stuff up on their site....

:laughing: Good call... lol

~Casey

crypnite
10-09-2009, 06:01 PM
It's why I bumped it...

:thefinger: lol

md_rubi
10-10-2009, 02:18 PM
so no mounting brackets for the long arm? any work on when it will be available?

brokenleaf
10-10-2009, 04:35 PM
I just saw the long arm kit on a 4 door at the Off Road Expo. They got rid of the 3 link + panhard in the back also. Pretty trick! It is now on Poly's web site also.

Jeff

md_rubi
10-22-2009, 11:12 AM
anyone have the long arm yet? i ordered the upgrade but the mounts aren't available yet.

can someone post pics if they have it?

thanks

GOAT1
10-22-2009, 11:17 AM
anyone have the long arm yet? i ordered the upgrade but the mounts aren't available yet.

can someone post pics if they have it?

thanks

The long arm kit is not available yet, we are still testing and refining the parts for production. It will probably be 2 months before parts are ready to ship.

terrahawk
10-22-2009, 11:29 AM
GOAT, what kind of spring rates are ya'll running on the 2 door?

GOAT1
10-22-2009, 11:38 AM
GOAT, what kind of spring rates are ya'll running on the 2 door?

Fronts are 155 lbs/in
Rears are 200 lbs/in

terrahawk
10-22-2009, 11:40 AM
Thanks!

md_rubi
10-22-2009, 12:06 PM
The long arm kit is not available yet, we are still testing and refining the parts for production. It will probably be 2 months before parts are ready to ship.

ok. good to know. i think adrenaline offroad is on the list for the long arm and mount?

thanks

Rock Krawler Suspension
10-22-2009, 12:06 PM
Goat or Pig

So what did you guys end up with out back? a 3 link with track bar, or a 4 link with track bar? I noticed your proto was on a RJ60 so that made the 3 link conversion easy for you! Just curious.

Jeremy - RKS

GOAT1
10-22-2009, 12:14 PM
Goat or Pig

So what did you guys end up with out back? a 3 link with track bar, or a 4 link with track bar? I noticed your proto was on a RJ60 so that made the 3 link conversion easy for you! Just curious.

Jeremy - RKS

Went with the 4 link + track bar. It was going to get pretty expensive with the extra mounts for the 3 link, and wanted to make it all bolt on kit, the rear diff mount is hard to make strong/cheap enough without welding it on. I couldn't put the 3rd link where I wanted it and I didnt like the handling and performance.

Rock Krawler Suspension
10-22-2009, 12:21 PM
That is the old FT still in you - all bolt in. LOL.............................

I can imagine the nose got a little light on you with the positioning of the three link at the axle you had, but for what you were doing with it (high speed koh type stuff) it probably helped out some. But for the average guy on the trail or street it was probably too much squat in the back. It appears from your pictures of the prototype that you were way above the OEM amounts in the rear. Some days you win some, some days you loose some.

crusty1007
10-30-2009, 12:19 PM
Check it out.
*****FREE FREIGHT SPECIAL ON ALL LONG ARM KITS & COMPONENTS!!!!! CLICK HERE***** (http://jkowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17442)

Living Still
10-30-2009, 01:14 PM
How did the suspension do out their?

It kicked ass...

Every time I see a polyperformance thread I laugh a little bit :laughing:. Your products seem to be the utmost in quality and design, but your marketing style is both hilarious and torturous. You don't give us any fluffy product descriptions to drool over or why you chose to do what you did (not always the case)... you just let the stuff speak for itself and let others who have it chime in on your behalf. Not meaning to be critical btw. If anything I mean this as more of a compliment. It's a testament that your stuff is THAT good if you ask me. If I had the cash I'd be all over this!

I could be bribed to make up fluffy advertising language for you in a product review btw.... ;)

~Casey

terrahawk
10-30-2009, 01:19 PM
Casey,

Goats sig speaks for itself lol.

shaggydoo
10-30-2009, 01:41 PM
I could be bribed to make up fluffy advertising language for you in a product review btw.... ;)

~Casey

Not sure we want you to do that, the majority of our customers would boycott us if we ever had any "Fluffy" advertising, lol.

GOAT1
10-30-2009, 01:52 PM
Every time I see a polyperformance thread I laugh a little bit :laughing:. Your products seem to be the utmost in quality and design, but your marketing style is both hilarious and torturous. You don't give us any fluffy product descriptions to drool over or why you chose to do what you did (not always the case)... you just let the stuff speak for itself and let others who have it chime in on your behalf. Not meaning to be critical btw. If anything I mean this as more of a compliment. It's a testament that your stuff is THAT good if you ask me. If I had the cash I'd be all over this!

I could be bribed to make up fluffy advertising language for you in a product review btw.... ;)

~Casey

I know what you're talking about, thats one fault of mine, I worry too much about making stuff (right) not marketing stuff. I try to balance out the companies that over fluff the garbage that they produce, just trying to balance it out! LOL!

But seriously, it takes up a lot of time to keep up with the internet forums and other marketing venues. I dont know how some of the other guys do it.

OrangeBrick
09-01-2010, 10:18 AM
Old thread but didn’t want to start a new thread because my main question is here but not sure it was answered.

Pig--will you be making and "upgrade kit" for those of us running the stage 3 Synergy system?

I must say, I have not seen any disadvantage of my "regular length" set up, but I was a bit intrigued at Goats comment about ride quality. What is the big picture, is this going to be a coil over application as well.

I am amazed, the JK crowd seems to have a lot more money than the TJ crowd I run with!!!! I am amazed at the cash some guys are pouring into these rigs.

If you have the Stage 3 4.5” and have not seen any disadvantages then what would be the reasoning to move to the long arms. I am stock and contemplating between the Stage 3 and Stage 4 lift kits. Goat, Pig or others that have used Poly’s Stage 3 4.5” then went to Poly’s Stage 4 4.5” kit. Is there a noticeable difference in the long arm then the short arm kit? The more I research each the more I just keep flipping back and forth between the two kits. I am looking for advice on which kit would be the most idea for a DD and weekend warrior on 37’s.

While researching these lifts I saw an install on here by The Rhylez where his rear springs bowed. Goat you mentioned the use of wedges/your weld on wedges or to cut and re-weld the mounts on. I am just curious as to what would cause that issue because what I believe that I got out of it was the axle is angled up due to the pinion angle of the CV drive shaft. Is that correct, if so is it fixable without the use of the wedges or re-welding the mounts? Also, is this to be expected or is this a rare occurrence.

GOAT1
09-01-2010, 10:43 AM
Old thread but didn’t want to start a new thread because my main question is here but not sure it was answered.



If you have the Stage 3 4.5” and have not seen any disadvantages then what would be the reasoning to move to the long arms. I am stock and contemplating between the Stage 3 and Stage 4 lift kits. Goat, Pig or others that have used Poly’s Stage 3 4.5” then went to Poly’s Stage 4 4.5” kit. Is there a noticeable difference in the long arm then the short arm kit? The more I research each the more I just keep flipping back and forth between the two kits. I am looking for advice on which kit would be the most idea for a DD and weekend warrior on 37’s.

While researching these lifts I saw an install on here by The Rhylez where his rear springs bowed. Goat you mentioned the use of wedges/your weld on wedges or to cut and re-weld the mounts on. I am just curious as to what would cause that issue because what I believe that I got out of it was the axle is angled up due to the pinion angle of the CV drive shaft. Is that correct, if so is it fixable without the use of the wedges or re-welding the mounts? Also, is this to be expected or is this a rare occurrence.

Ride quality and handling is improved, the axles do not move forward and back with up and down travel as much with the longer flatter arms. Its not a huge difference but it is noticeable.

Off road is a big difference. The rear geometry really helps the stability and climbing ability of the JK. The most notable difference is the how the front reacts when the front tires are trying to climb a ledge, big rock or wall. When you put the tires up against what you are trying to climb, with the short arm the front suspension will jack or extend fully before the tires climb. With the long arm the suspension will stay put and the tires will climb without jacking the front suspension.

The problem with the rear springs bowing is caused when you rotate the rear axle up to point the pinion at the T-case with a CV driveshaft. No real way to avoid it, and it happens to all JK's when you rotate the rear axle up. Its a pretty minor thing to fix. If you are installing a long arm kit, cutting and welding the rear mounts shouldn't be a problem, if not the wedges are easy and cheap to install.

Unreal JK
09-01-2010, 10:47 AM
So which long arm system are you guys offering? The one shown in the pictures with the release or the one on your website? I like the weld in 3 link setup. I am currently running an RK mid arm kit, but I am looking to go with either their long arm or another kit similar to what you showed here!

GOAT1
09-01-2010, 10:52 AM
The one on the website, the pics at the start of this thread was an early prototype, didnt like it so went in a different direction.

bonecollector
09-01-2010, 10:55 AM
We run a Poly 5.5 long on a 2dr JK and the rear spring hit the track bar Poly sent out a set of wedges. They slip under the spring, Also rotated the rear down a little and solved the problem. Sometime later we will probably go with a set of there weld on brackets and rotste the pinion back up. Got about 5k on the lift and love it Great company service, handles great.

OrangeBrick
09-03-2010, 01:51 PM
Ride quality and handling is improved, the axles do not move forward and back with up and down travel as much with the longer flatter arms. Its not a huge difference but it is noticeable.

Off road is a big difference. The rear geometry really helps the stability and climbing ability of the JK. The most notable difference is the how the front reacts when the front tires are trying to climb a ledge, big rock or wall. When you put the tires up against what you are trying to climb, with the short arm the front suspension will jack or extend fully before the tires climb. With the long arm the suspension will stay put and the tires will climb without jacking the front suspension.

The problem with the rear springs bowing is caused when you rotate the rear axle up to point the pinion at the T-case with a CV driveshaft. No real way to avoid it, and it happens to all JK's when you rotate the rear axle up. Its a pretty minor thing to fix. If you are installing a long arm kit, cutting and welding the rear mounts shouldn't be a problem, if not the wedges are easy and cheap to install.


Goat, thanks for the reply. I was leaning towards the long arm kit anyway but every time I read a different LA vs SA thread I was changing my mind with every new post. :laughing:

Also, I have been looking but have not seen a build thread with your Stage 4 kit. Do you have one or know of one that I could take a look at? If not, no big deal because I was planning on doing a nice write-up of the install when I get the kit. Thanks again.

JK07
12-07-2010, 09:33 PM
Poly i really like your weld on brackets and wishing to purchase them but all is see is bolt on kit which is vert different to these in the pic. Can i purcahse them seperately i mean the weld on bracekts as shown in pics?




Well here you go..... The 2 door just came back from a weekend of testing at Johnson Valley............

GOAT1
12-08-2010, 08:15 AM
Poly i really like your weld on brackets and wishing to purchase them but all is see is bolt on kit which is vert different to these in the pic. Can i purcahse them seperately i mean the weld on bracekts as shown in pics?

That was a pre-production prototype kit, we do not make any of those parts to sell. The final kit is very different and is what is shown on the website.