Chinaman Buena Vista Feb 21st 2009

[airric00]

Pictures of the trip on 2nd page...

[Alec W]

I'll try to make it. I really need to fix my locker for this one so I'll have to get it done next weekend :D

[a plumber]

I ran the beginning of that trail a while back, i will check the schedule and see if i can make it:beer:

[airric00]

Electronics is not in my bag of tools... Maybe a trip to the dealership for a diagnosis? Even if they don't warranty it, you can at least find out whats wrong.. The Jeep dealership here is wheeling friendly..

[a-squared]

hit it this past weekend with 6 other jks....

The trail is a little more washed out than it was for us in november...

None of us cleared the left side of whales tail...but two of us with 35's cleared a new "line" on the stairs...

Skid plates took a real beating, but everything survived...minus a few scratches, a broken valve stem, and a few poop ur pants moments...it was a perfect day!

[airric00]

:) looking forward to it!!

[Alec W]

:) looking forward to it!!

It's got some nice optional stuff and a few things you have to make. Nice trail.

[km2jk]

Now im on all the forums. Cant wait for this trip. I got the new bumper on and i need to scratch it some

[airric00]

Now im on all the forums. Cant wait for this trip. I got the new bumper on and i need to scratch it some

YO ADRIEN!! LOL... Hey man post up a pic of the new additions!! :beer:

[km2jk]

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv99/km2jk/newsideview.jpg
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There are a couple. Still waiting on the winch and the rear lights.

[km2jk]

Did these too. They are the wrong color so theyre sending me a new set, but they are still pretty cool.
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[km2jk]

Last post i promise ( i just figured out how to do this). This is what we cant expect if it snows. This is just after "whale tail". I can usaully get to the top but that white stuff is slippery.
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[airric00]

Sweet pics!! I dig the new additions... Let's hope for 70's cause I got aging tires!! :shaking:

[mmcan]

hit it this past weekend with 6 other jks....

The trail is a little more washed out than it was for us in november...

None of us cleared the left side of whales tail...but two of us with 35's cleared a new "line" on the stairs...

Skid plates took a real beating, but everything survived...minus a few scratches, a broken valve stem, and a few poop ur pants moments...it was a perfect day!

Do you have any pics of the line you took?

[Alec W]

My locker is fixed, looking forward to this trip :smokin:

[airric00]

My locker is fixed, looking forward to this trip :smokin:

Kat and I are renting a cabin if interested friday night... :beer: Looks like a nice weekend is shaping up... Sun is supposed to be out this weekend. However a storm is blowing in midweek.. Lets hope its not to bad..

[Alec W]

Can you post a link to the cabins, I can't get to the meetup web site from work. Kathy and I will have Tori with us.

[airric00]

Can you post a link to the cabins, I can't get to the meetup web site from work. Kathy and I will have Tori with us.

http://www.vistacourtcabins.com/cabins.htm

We rented Cabin #6. I know Cabin 1 is still available.. If you want to crash with us, it has 1 queen and 2 single beds... I get the queen!! :thefinger: they are 75 for 4 people and 60 for 2. Not bad!

[WTF_LOL]

I hope I can make this but I am not 100% certain.

What would be your guess on what time we would be back off the trail?

[airric00]

I have no idea.. I haven't run this one yet... Adrien ran it in the snow so he would be the person to ask.. I think were set to start at 11am. I would like to start sooner, but we will see I guess. Give him a shout, he has the red jk with stinger in this thread...

[km2jk]

Im here. It normally takes 2-2.5 hours alone with snow. A group this size will take more time for sure, but i would think less than 4. The 2nd group should get up there by 10:30 and as soon as we are all acounted for we can head up. Its about 3 miles from the Gunsmoke truck stop that we are meetin at to the trailhead.

[WTF_LOL]

If I can get back on the road to start heading back by 3pm then I can do the run. Do you guys think that is realistic? I don't want to rush the run.

I suppose if it starts getting late I could just leave the group and blow through whats left solo so everyone can still take their time.

[km2jk]

That may be possible. I have never done it with a large group. Im sure you could get through it alone quick if it came down to it.

[airric00]

I say FUK it and just come... I'm sure we can get you out whenever you gotta go... This is going to be FUN!

[Alec W]

We are looking at the cabins and will most probably drive down Friday night after work. Either way I'll be there.

[WTF_LOL]

Looks lik I can not make it. Sucks..I am getting tired of the trails that I know of that are open around here, lol

oh well, I think I will be joining a local run here

[Alec W]

Looks lik I can not make it. Sucks..I am getting tired of the trails that I know of that are open around here, lol

oh well, I think I will be joining a local run here

That's a shame, it's a fun trail.

[km2jk]

I sent my phone # to the meetup group members who are going. I am going to lead the saturday morning group up at 7:30 sharp. If anyone needs to cantact me just send an email

[airric00]

We are looking at the cabins and will most probably drive down Friday night after work. Either way I'll be there.


Sweet let me know if you need to crash with us.. No one took the beds..

Bummer WTF isn't going!!

[Alec W]

Sweet let me know if you need to crash with us.. No one took the beds..

Bummer WTF isn't going!!

If we can’t get a cabin we will take you up on that.

I'll leave after work (6ish) and we will stop for dinner on the way down. Call me if you are on the road at the same sort of time.

[WTF_LOL]

That's a shame, it's a fun trail.

I know. Unfortunatley we are short handed at work and I ony have Saturday off. I have too much stuff to do to dedicate a whole day to wheeling. I really hope one of you guys will be down to run it again soon.

I feel like I have been running fire roads for the last couple months.


BTW, glad to hear you got your locker working again Alec, that must be a nice relief. Is JE reel gonna replace your DS?

[Alec W]

I called the cabins 6 times and no answer or call back.

I’ll have Kathy, Tori and both dogs with me so will probably drive out in the morning with the rest of the group.

[Alec W]

Is JE reel gonna replace your DS?

Not even going to ask them. This is DS #3 from them that failed on me. Phil got one fixed on his dime not theirs (thanks Phil) but at this point even though the first couple were possible my fault for a bad pinion angle, I’m gun shy. The rear lasted all of 10,000 miles and had the right angle from day one so I’ll be ordering a Woods DS before Moab

[airric00]

I called the cabins 6 times and no answer or call back.

I’ll have Kathy, Tori and both dogs with me so will probably drive out in the morning with the rest of the group.

Were going to get there by 3pm tomorrow.. I'll ask if they have anything left and give you a shout.. I think H2Oproof (ken) is going to come in and crash with us.. So if there is a cabin for 6 i'll let you know as well... Keep your cell on!!

[Alec W]

Were going to get there by 3pm tomorrow.. I'll ask if they have anything left and give you a shout.. I think H2Oproof (ken) is going to come in and crash with us.. So if there is a cabin for 6 i'll let you know as well... Keep your cell on!!
Thanks :)

[airric00]

Thanks :)

Just called and talked to them.. I think I woke up someone!! LOL.. She said to call in the morning they may have something available... Text me if you call b4 I do..

[airric00]

Justa taste!!!

WTF you missan out!

http://picasaweb.google.com/aaronadams25/ChinamanGulch1112008?authkey=8tZDVlfkd_U#slideshow

[WTF_LOL]

WTF you missan out!



Belive me when I say it is not by choice. I wish I could. Those pictures killed me, I should not have looked through them. I have really been wanting a fun trail for a while....

I hope we can get another run going there soon...or at least one of you, lol

[J. Kickerman]

Damn wrong thread.

[PBach]

Wish I could make it....but can't.
Here are some tips to make Chinamans more fun.
At the first rock pile, hug the left side as much as possible. Much more challenging and you get a nice big rash on your driver side rocker bars for good memories. Slide on down!

At Whale Rock, take the extreme left hand side. The other two ways up are for sissys and ninnies. Seriously though, you need a good amount of lift and big tires for the long Unlimiteds to get up. Don't bother if you are under 100 inches of WB. Once on the rock, don't give up or you'll go over on your passenger side. Really easy to do. If you can clear your front, right lower control arm, then you'll go up. If not....you'll never make it. 6 inches of lift and 37's.....or 40's.
Here is me going up. It's way tougher than it looks.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8995/mtloganvq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/mtloganvq0.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/mtloganvq0.jpg/1/)

Lastly,
At the stairs, take the line to the left so you actually run your driver side door right up next to the tree. You'll be a few inches from the tree. You won't be able to back out of it once you have your tires in the ditch at the beginning of the rock. Go straight up from there.

[a-squared]

Justa taste!!!

WTF you missan out!

http://picasaweb.google.com/aaronadams25/ChinamanGulch1112008?authkey=8tZDVlfkd_U#slideshow

Dude,

Creepy. how'd you get a link to my picasa album?

[airric00]

Dude,

Creepy. how'd you get a link to my picasa album?

From the other forum! :grinpimp:

[a-squared]

thats what i figured....

Wheel on!

[airric00]

He goes the onslaught of pics!! GREAT DAY! Was in the 50's and perfect weather.. Overall the day went as planned.. Minor carnage is expected on this trail.. I tore off the passenger front fender, the TJ broke a sway bar link, lots of dented bumpers and rock rails were used a plenty... We ran into a Rock Hard Wheeling group and they had a lot of carnage too... Bent tie rods and such.. Good times.. WE ALL made out in one piece!!! Got back to the cabin grilled up some burgers, watched the sun go down and hit the hot tub... The rest of the crew should be arriving in Denver shortly!!. Cheers!!!

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[airric00]

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[airric00]

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[airric00]

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[Alec W]

Great pics!! We got some good ones but I was so tired by the time I got home I crashed before I could sort them all out. I’ll get to it this morning after I catch back up in the prirate game :grinpimp:

[grphill]

Was an awesome trail and great people to be around . Special thanks to Eric and Adrien for putting this together. Greg

[airric00]

Great pics!! We got some good ones but I was so tired by the time I got home I crashed before I could sort them all out. I’ll get to it this morning after I catch back up in the prirate game :grinpimp:

haha you are addicted!! Just got back to Denver.. What a nice drive home! My fender didn't even move on the way home. Thank goodness for zipties!

Thanks Greg it was great to wheel with you!! See you on the next run..

[PBach]

No Whale Rockers huh?

[Alec W]

No Whale Rockers huh?


Bunch of snow and ice all over the left side of it so we took the middle line.

[airric00]

No Whale Rockers huh?

That big ass exo'd beast Bent his tie rod trying it.... It was too icy to chance rolling off..

[Alec W]

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[Alec W]

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[WTF_LOL]

I love the pic of the two dogs and no people, Reminds me of the dogs playing cards painting.


Just a couple dogs out wheeling!

http://www.myprojectjk.com/images/940_2009-02-OCG-09.JPG

[PBach]

Snow and ice? Ahhhuuuuummmm.......Where?
Next time, I'll go up with you girls and show you how to do it.;):thefinger:
Did anyone at least take the hard line on the Stairs?.......and hug the tree?

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9194/whale.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/whale.jpg/1/w940.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img18/whale.jpg/1/)

[airric00]

Snow and ice? Ahhhuuuuummmm.......Where?
Next time, I'll go up with you girls and show you how to do it.;):thefinger:
Did anyone at least take the hard line on the Stairs?.......and hug the tree?

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9194/whale.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/whale.jpg/1/w940.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img18/whale.jpg/1/)

haha... Yeah it does look dry on that shot.. But on the top it was slick as snot. The whole trail for the next 200 yds was solid sheet of ice.. I tore off my passenger fender on a tree as I slid off a rock and CRASH! No we didn't do the hardline on the stairs.. Next time you better come slacker!..

[PBach]

Next time I'll be there. But we will be taking the trail head to the right. My XJ should be ready for Carnage after the snow melts. You guys can follow me up that one if you'd like!

[Alec W]

Next time I'll be there. But we will be taking the trail head to the right. My XJ should be ready for Carnage after the snow melts. You guys can follow me up that one if you'd like!

I wan't to see you take your JK on Carnage ;)

[PBach]

I wan't to see you take your JK on Carnage ;)

Yeah....the trail would earn its name if I took it through there.
Once I get the Dana 60's and 40's on, I would prolly try it.

[ProZack]

Great pics everyone.

Going to plan a trip up there in the summer after the wife graduates.

[Xtremjeepn]

Great pics. Wish I could have made it this time.

[mmcan]

Wish I could make it....but can't.
Here are some tips to make Chinamans more fun.
At the first rock pile, hug the left side as much as possible. Much more challenging and you get a nice big rash on your driver side rocker bars for good memories. Slide on down!

At Whale Rock, take the extreme left hand side. The other two ways up are for sissys and ninnies. Seriously though, you need a good amount of lift and big tires for the long Unlimiteds to get up. Don't bother if you are under 100 inches of WB. Once on the rock, don't give up or you'll go over on your passenger side. Really easy to do. If you can clear your front, right lower control arm, then you'll go up. If not....you'll never make it. 6 inches of lift and 37's.....or 40's.
Here is me going up. It's way tougher than it looks.
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8995/mtloganvq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/mtloganvq0.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/mtloganvq0.jpg/1/)

Lastly,
At the stairs, take the line to the left so you actually run your driver side door right up next to the tree. You'll be a few inches from the tree. You won't be able to back out of it once you have your tires in the ditch at the beginning of the rock. Go straight up from there.

Great hints.

I'll keep this handy when I make it back there!

Thanks!