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: question for class 3 guys


venom
01-24-2009, 02:33 PM
I'm thinkin about a supressor for my Mosquito, so I'm looking at tax stamp/form 4 stuff.
I see a lot of info about using a trust vs not.
Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems the biggest advantage to a trust is getting around the chief law enforcement officer signature.
I don't think I'll have any problems with that part so are there enough other advantages to go that way instead of just filling it out myself?
The only other semi-useful thing I can find about a trust is that you can put a co-trustee on it so you can let someone else use your weapon.

Am I missing anything?

Should I do the trust or save the lawyer's fee and just go talk to the Sheriff?

H8T2W8T
01-24-2009, 03:06 PM
I'm thinkin about a supressor for my Mosquito, so I'm looking at tax stamp/form 4 stuff.
I see a lot of info about using a trust vs not.
Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems the biggest advantage to a trust is getting around the chief law enforcement officer signature.
I don't think I'll have any problems with that part so are there enough other advantages to go that way instead of just filling it out myself?
The only other semi-useful thing I can find about a trust is that you can put a co-trustee on it so you can let someone else use your weapon.

Am I missing anything?

Should I do the trust or save the lawyer's fee and just go talk to the Sheriff?

I used the trust route for my things. The first time I went the individual route and the CLEO messed up his part. I didn't find out about it until 4 months later when the ATF sent me a letter. I decided to go the trust route after that to eliminate any other mistakes.

You still have to file a citizenship/verification form(s), but you do away with the finger print cards and the CLEO signiture.

Good luck with your paperwork:D

BTW-I used Quicken Willmaker.

If you do go the Trust route, send in your entire Trust document minus the instructions. It will save you the heartache of getting a return letter and the longer wait.

Grover
01-24-2009, 08:02 PM
I didn't know you could get around the CLEO on the class 3 stuff. is it everything or just suppressors? One of the main reasons I have not messed with class 3 is I did not want to deal with local law enforcement.

venom
01-24-2009, 08:30 PM
I didn't know you could get around the CLEO on the class 3 stuff. is it everything or just suppressors? One of the main reasons I have not messed with class 3 is I did not want to deal with local law enforcement.

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/how-to-purchase-a-class-3-fire/ :grinpimp:

usmcdoc14
01-25-2009, 08:37 PM
I did trust for ease of transfer if I get killed.

edwin907
01-28-2009, 07:27 PM
The trust is just too easy not to use.
I've got both suppressors and 3 SBRs on my trust.


M-92 SBR (won on the ar15.com member's raffle!!!!)

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/KSA.jpg

and my favorite rifle, a 16" Krieger Recon with OPS 12th suppressor.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/OPS.jpg

venom
01-28-2009, 11:09 PM
ok, next dumb question....
I'm friends with the county sheriff, not with a trust lawyer
would it still be easier to use a trust?

like I said, I dont know all the ins and outs of this yet, but it seems like if I can just say "hey man, can you sign this for me?" it would be a LOT easier than setting up a trust?

edwin907
01-29-2009, 07:47 AM
ok, next dumb question....
I'm friends with the county sheriff, not with a trust lawyer
would it still be easier to use a trust?

like I said, I dont know all the ins and outs of this yet, but it seems like if I can just say "hey man, can you sign this for me?" it would be a LOT easier than setting up a trust?

You'll still have to do the fingerprint cards also, but if he's your friend you've got no problems.

And different states have different trust laws, here in Georgia you just have to have it notarized, no informing the Sec of State, County, City, or anybody else. Local municipalities may also have specific laws regarding Class 3 weapons.
Talk to your Sheriff friend, get him to sign & make fingerprint cards (extras too), it's your best option.