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Ctimrun
06-21-2008, 07:02 PM
I'll start it off.....

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/21216/2705247020084149825S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2705247020084149825BupHFr)

MOJAVEGREEN
06-22-2008, 01:06 AM
Nice rifle Tim, I prefer to call them "sporting rifles", less likely to offend a liberal(:thefinger:)pinko! Ha, just kidding!:thefinger: What are the specs on yours? I am looking at a couple options right now for a build up.
BTW, nice to see you on here.:beer:

MarcM
06-23-2008, 05:20 AM
The Feds made me relocte my AK and AR. Bastards.

SDMF
06-23-2008, 08:19 AM
Hey, isn't that your daughters BB gun?

MarcM
06-24-2008, 12:33 PM
I saw a soft air M4 that looked like the real thing. They even weigh close to the same.

K-Bear
06-24-2008, 06:58 PM
As soon as I get my ACOG scope on my AR (anybody have a spare grand lying around?), I'll post up a pic :smokin:

venom
06-24-2008, 07:54 PM
i posted this one up awhile back
my AK lockpick
http://www.jkowners.com/forum/gallery/files/1/4/6/aklockpick.jpg

dougnpj
06-25-2008, 09:37 AM
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc37/dougnpj/AK-1.jpg

Grover
07-12-2008, 05:57 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff16/yetitj/misc/allineed.jpg
.45, 5.56, 12ga
I have others, but this is all I need when it hits the fan. (still working on the 12ga's furniture)

vegasjeep
07-14-2008, 12:15 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/vegasjeep/sunstar015.jpg

blownJK
09-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Bushmaster AR-15....tricked out
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/fallenangel1006/Picture015.jpg

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s107/fallenangel1006/Picture019.jpg

H8T2W8T
09-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Guns are evil. :thefinger:

jeff'sjk
09-26-2008, 01:14 AM
Assault rifle!?!?








http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff49/w31350/Picture416.jpg
:thefinger::D:thefinger:

homesickmarine
09-26-2008, 12:12 PM
2694
My son and my baby. Bushmaster Shorty. Clinging to my guns and religion...

blownJK
09-30-2008, 02:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxY0f0tKcjY

H8T2W8T
10-02-2008, 06:07 AM
Here's how we do it in Florida.:grinpimp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKvDIHAfNOA

usmcdoc14
10-05-2008, 07:00 PM
New build from today
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5831/ebg1li5.jpg

some custom lightening :devil:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8199/ebg4kc7.jpg

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9448/ebg5xv0.jpg

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5871/ebg6cr5.jpg

Seeing as 90% of what I own is an "assualt type weapon" I could be posting way too much in this thread :laughing:

homesickmarine
10-06-2008, 01:24 PM
That is BADAZZ doc!

SDMF
10-06-2008, 02:44 PM
Do you do this for a job Doc?

Grover
10-06-2008, 04:04 PM
nice work doc. Who makes that upper?

usmcdoc14
10-06-2008, 10:37 PM
Do you do this for a job Doc?

:laughing::laughing: no
I am an active duty Navy Corpsman with a Specwar unit. I do this for fun and to pay for more toys :devil:

nice work doc. Who makes that upper?

American Spirit Arms, its a side charging upper. no more smacking my hands on my optics when charging the weapon. that and its VERY ergonomic

dougnpj
10-09-2008, 03:24 PM
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc37/dougnpj/AK-1.jpg

I may have to relocate so does anyone want this?

usmcdoc14
10-09-2008, 04:21 PM
I may have to relocate so does anyone want this?

Can't take it with you?
PM me with info on it (make/model/round count)

edwin907
11-23-2008, 08:34 PM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/KSA.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SPRb.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/OPS.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/MRP-2.jpg

bodyguy
11-25-2008, 06:20 PM
Nothing fancy but its fun
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff70/joekerrie/IMG_0853.jpg
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff70/joekerrie/IMG_0856.jpg

H8T2W8T
11-28-2008, 02:47 PM
Here's my latest build. I'm waiting on the right rings to finish it.:bounce:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm119/Air2Mud46/Pea%20Shooters/IMG_2664.jpg

Mstef3
12-31-2008, 05:05 AM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SPRb.jpg
Nice Mod 0 and SBR. Me likey.
Did you build the Mod 0 yourself or buy it?

rockrash
05-05-2009, 01:27 PM
My AR

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/036-1.jpg?t=1241551473


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd248/rockrash2/032-1.jpg?t=1241551598

Mr.RonGilbert
05-05-2009, 05:24 PM
The toy...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/TheGman_/Billy/P2210145.jpg

edwin907
05-05-2009, 08:52 PM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SPRb.jpg
Nice Mod 0 and SBR. Me likey.
Did you build the Mod 0 yourself or buy it?

I actually built all of my own rifles myself, except for this Mod0 upper which came from JTAC (Jason).
This particular rifle has shot sub 1/2 MOA at 500 yards at night with the D-760 GenIII NV scope and MK262 ammo, suppressed!
Yes, that expensive Krieger barrel was worth every cent!
So is the expensive OPS 12th suppressor.


The AR is about the easiest rifle made to build, with a action block and simple hand tools, there is no reason anyone couldn't build one to suit them.

Mstef3
05-13-2009, 07:59 PM
I actually built all of my own rifles myself, except for this Mod0 upper which came from JTAC (Jason).
This particular rifle has shot sub 1/2 MOA at 500 yards at night with the D-760 GenIII NV scope and MK262 ammo, suppressed!
Yes, that expensive Krieger barrel was worth every cent!
So is the expensive OPS 12th suppressor.


The AR is about the easiest rifle made to build, with a action block and simple hand tools, there is no reason anyone couldn't build one to suit them.

A good friend of mine (John Gobbels of PA Defense Consultants) has built a lot of SPR's. As far as the $$$ on the OPS cans, I know I have a OPS 15 model on my SBR.

chainboy1
06-16-2009, 07:51 PM
A couple of my toys =)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/chainboy1/Guns/P1200482.jpg

edwin907
06-17-2009, 05:38 PM
A good friend of mine (John Gobbels of PA Defense Consultants) has built a lot of SPR's. As far as the $$$ on the OPS cans, I know I have a OPS 15 model on my SBR.

I've bought quite a bit of stuff there, including the 12th!

Here's a Douglas barrelled upper that most of the parts came from John.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/MD1.jpg

Mstef3
06-22-2009, 09:08 PM
I've bought quite a bit of stuff there, including the 12th!

Here's a Douglas barrelled upper that most of the parts came from John.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/MD1.jpg

Sweet! I love this stuff. Just wish I bought more ammo 5 years ago...

guinness
06-24-2009, 04:17 PM
I think you all are nuts. Do you guys really need MACHINE GUNS. These things are a travesty to this nation and the world. The current Mexican drug violence along the border is bieng waged w/ guns like these, and they are all coming from the USA. Your silly demand for these things under the guise of your "second ammenment right" is why innocent people die everyday.
Are you all preparing to overthrow the govt. or just paranoid that Obama will finally do the right thing and eliminate this supposed "right to bear arms". The military and police hardly need these types of automatic machine guns, why do you need them. I truely hope that Obama signs onto the UN small arms ban and we can not only eliminate these Machine Guns but ALL GUNS from citizens.

kerryp
06-24-2009, 04:18 PM
LOL

guinness
06-24-2009, 04:37 PM
LOL

You can laugh now; however, Ill be the one who is laughing when this administration finally eliminates this mythical "right to bear arms" ie cowboys and nutjobs running the streets like some sort of vigilantes or terrorists.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 04:40 PM
I think you all are nuts. Do you guys really need MACHINE GUNS. These things are a travesty to this nation and the world. The current Mexican drug violence along the border is bieng waged w/ guns like these, and they are all coming from the USA. Your silly demand for these things under the guise of your "second ammenment right" is why innocent people die everyday.
Are you all preparing to overthrow the govt. or just paranoid that Obama will finally do the right thing and eliminate this supposed "right to bear arms". The military and police hardly need these types of automatic machine guns, why do you need them. I truely hope that Obama signs onto the UN small arms ban and we can not only eliminate these Machine Guns but ALL GUNS from citizens.

I think that is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. My IQ has just dropped 30 points after reading that. A military without an assault rifle is like a liberal without someone to tax... pointless. If you want to say that BS go somewhere else because according to you our personal rights don't matter. I vote no more freedom of speech for this guy.

Ogie
06-24-2009, 04:44 PM
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1974_eating_popcorn.gif

guinness
06-24-2009, 04:52 PM
I think that is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. My IQ has just dropped 30 points after reading that. A military without an assault rifle is like a liberal without someone to tax... pointless. If you want to say that BS go somewhere else because according to you our personal rights don't matter. I vote no more freedom of speech for this guy.

Really, have you ever read about collateral damage? Our country sends people to war with weapons capable of killing every one in site including innocent civilians. I understand that our military needed these types of weapons during true war. Now however we are basically policing other nations, and like our domestic police agencies these weapons should only be used in the most dire of circumstances ie. SWAT(jack booted thug) instances.
More importantly we need to eliminate these weapons availability to citizens in order to reduce crime! Until guns are completely banned no individual will be safe.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:10 PM
Really, have you ever read about collateral damage? Our country sends people to war with weapons capable of killing every one in site including innocent civilians. I understand that our military needed these types of weapons during true war. Now however we are basically policing other nations, and like our domestic police agencies these weapons should only be used in the most dire of circumstances ie. SWAT(jack booted thug) instances.
More importantly we need to eliminate these weapons availability to citizens in order to reduce crime! Until guns are completely banned no individual will be safe.

criminals can not legally own these weapons anyways. go get a felony charge and try to legally get one of these. you propose to take away the legal guns of citizens that use them for sport. while you're at it why don't you take away our jeeps, paychecks, and goverment because obviously you think socialism and communism is the way to go. Oh wait, communist created the most prevalent assault rifle ever, the ak-47 which is what mexican druggies are using and are getting from south of the boarder because they are much cheaper and easier to acquire. Go start your Karl Marx lover post and leave this one alone.

Dancin Dan
06-24-2009, 05:13 PM
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1974_eating_popcorn.gif

Yup. Now everybody be cool and let these two duke it out.:D

venom
06-24-2009, 05:13 PM
Here we go again :grinpimp:

guinness
06-24-2009, 05:13 PM
I think that is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. My IQ has just dropped 30 points after reading that. A military without an assault rifle is like a liberal without someone to tax... pointless. If you want to say that BS go somewhere else because according to you our personal rights don't matter. I vote no more freedom of speech for this guy.

Oh and Im sure you would love to use your guns to silence my right to freedom of speach, Will Amadinijad.

venom
06-24-2009, 05:16 PM
:rolleyes:
Guinness,
you just can't see a hornet's nest without looking for a stick can ya? :laughing:

guinness
06-24-2009, 05:17 PM
Yup. Now everybody be cool and let these two duke it out.:D

Here we go again :grinpimp:

Seems the little youngster ran out of steam already. Im just glad he has seen the error of his ways.

Dancin Dan
06-24-2009, 05:23 PM
Seems the little youngster ran out of steam already. Im just glad he has seen the error of his ways.

Aw man. That was just gettin good too.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:25 PM
Oh and Im sure you would love to use your guns to silence my right to freedom of speach, Will Amadinijad.

sure if that is what is necessary to ensure the freedoms of the citizens of this great country. We as the governed have a duty to overthrow a gpvernment that suppresses our rights as set forth by our founding fathers. Go run fpr president and ban guns, see how long your admin is in power. If you have a problem with the crime rates then go take that upwith your local gangbanger who illegaly acquired his 9mm. Don't try to forcefeed this liberal crap to upstanding citizens who pay their taxes, stop at crosswalks, help feed the needy with programs such as hunters for the hungry, and utilize their right to bear arms. Without people like us we would be drinking tea and eating crumpets while bowing to the queen.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:31 PM
Seems the little youngster ran out of steam already. Im just glad he has seen the error of his ways.

im typing this on my phone so ittakes a bit longer.

venom
06-24-2009, 05:35 PM
well I say ass-ault rifles should be legal
as long as they're cute
:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:

http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg
:stirthepot: :thefinger:

guinness
06-24-2009, 05:37 PM
im typing this on my phone so ittakes a bit longer.

Meh:shaking: if youre doing that you shoulda taken the time to argue a point instead of making an excuse. Its ok, you can just fade away, I understand that you cant argue against a reasonable, well thought out, winning arguement.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:40 PM
if a criminal wants to get a weapon he or she will with or without a ban further more iran was the on suppressing a freedom that the citizens have ie. voting so your little joke is wrong. You are the one trying to take away our guns just as he took away their votes.

guinness
06-24-2009, 05:44 PM
sure if that is what is necessary to ensure the freedoms of the citizens of this great country. We as the governed have a duty to overthrow a gpvernment that suppresses our rights as set forth by our founding fathers. Go run fpr president and ban guns, see how long your admin is in power. If you have a problem with the crime rates then go take that upwith your local gangbanger who illegaly acquired his 9mm. Don't try to forcefeed this liberal crap to upstanding citizens who pay their taxes, stop at crosswalks, help feed the needy with programs such as hunters for the hungry, and utilize their right to bear arms. Without people like us we would be drinking tea and eating crumpets while bowing to the queen.

Seems the little fella found his voice! Now understand your argument that if we ban guns only the criminals will have guns is old and tired. Yes at first only criminals will have guns; however, the illegal gun trade will eventually dry up and not even criminals will be able to aquire them.
Oh, yes you brave hunters out there killing Bambi to give the meat to the needy. How about throwing a thousand dollars to the local food pantry instead of buying that machine gun?

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Meh:shaking: if youre doing that you shoulda taken the time to argue a point instead of making an excuse. Its ok, you can just fade away, I understand that you cant argue against a reasonable, well thought out, winning arguement.

and you can??? you have addressed only one of my points. Go read the posts and try again when you get your big boy shoes on. All you can say is that guns kill people. So do alcoholics that drive drunk. Are you calling for a ban on budwiser?

guinness
06-24-2009, 05:49 PM
well I say ass-ault rifles should be legal
as long as they're cute
:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:

http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg
:stirthepot: :thefinger:

Yeah thats what we need:shaking: guns that look like toys so that our law enforcement officers can really make split second decisions during tense situations, and have no recourse when they make the wrong one. Carolyn McCarthy, Clinton and Obama are right, as a civilized nation there is no place here for privately owned firearms.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:51 PM
Seems the little fella found his voice! Now understand your argument that if we ban guns only the criminals will have guns is old and tired. Yes at first only criminals will have guns; however, the illegal gun trade will eventually dry up and not even criminals will be able to aquire them.
Oh, yes you brave hunters out there killing Bambi to give the meat to the needy. How about throwing a thousand dollars to the local food pantry instead of buying that machine gun?

how and why would the illegal gun trade dry up? Do you think guns are the reason for crime? Crime came well before guns. Do you not like your freedoms? Have you ever owned or fired a gun or are you to busy watching nancy grace and parroting anti-gun advocates?

venom
06-24-2009, 05:52 PM
Yeah thats what we need:shaking: guns that look like toys so that our law enforcement officers can really make split second decisions during tense situations, and have no recourse when they make the wrong one. Carolyn McCarthy, Clinton and Obama are right, as a civilized nation there is no place here for privately owned firearms.

Hey, they passed a law that all toy guns must have the tip of the muzzle be fluorescent orange
The gubberment has already passed a law to address your concerns sir.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 05:55 PM
Yeah thats what we need:shaking: guns that look like toys so that our law enforcement officers can really make split second decisions during tense situations, and have no recourse when they make the wrong one. Carolyn McCarthy, Clinton and Obama are right, as a civilized nation there is no place here for privately owned firearms.

any law enforcement officers out there? what do you all think about banning firearms? Do you all think it would stop crime and are you all willing to give up your freedom to bear arms?

venom
06-24-2009, 05:58 PM
LOL
The right to 'BEAR arms"
LOL I crack myself up

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/9b/Right_To_Bear_Arms.jpg

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:00 PM
and you can??? you have addressed only one of my points. Go read the posts and try again when you get your big boy shoes on. All you can say is that guns kill people. So do alcoholics that drive drunk. Are you calling for a ban on budwiser?

Well thats a new one. Are you going to explain to me that guns kill people like spoons made Rosie fat?

If there were no guns, no one could shoot anyone. You cant really argue the point that because one group of people break one law its ok for others to break another. More people are killed with guns every year than those killed by DWI in five. We will never be able to reinstitute prohabition again; however, we can ban guns. Lets save the lives we can. Change you can believe and rely on.

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:01 PM
any law enforcement officers out there? what do you all think about banning firearms? Do you all think it would stop crime and are you all willing to give up your freedom to bear arms?

LEO's are the most common targets of firearms. Do you seriously think they feal safe knowing anyone they come in contact with could be carrying a gun.

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:06 PM
See no love from them. They know the real threat facing them, guns in the hands of citizens.Check out the stats provided by the Brady Campaign, guns are evil period, Dirty Harry.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Well thats a new one. Are you going to explain to me that guns kill people like spoons made Rosie fat?

If there were no guns, no one could shoot anyone. You cant really argue the point that because one group of people break one law its ok for others to break another. More people are killed with guns every year than those killed by DWI in five. We will never be able to reinstitute prohabition again; however, we can ban guns. Lets save the lives we can. Change you can believe and rely on.

you go into compton and and other similiar locations and get rid of every gun in those areas and i will support you with all my effort. What you are suggesting, removing all firearms in america, is impossible. Come to my door and ask for my guns, we will see how that goes. Did you go to school and learn about the civil war? Do you want another one because im pretty sure those with the guns will win.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 06:17 PM
See no love from them. They know the real threat facing them, guns in the hands of citizens.Check out the stats provided by the Brady Campaign, guns are evil period, Dirty Harry.

yes, give people 5 minutes to respond then speak as their representative? I thought i was dealing with an educated adult, I now know that i am talking to the worlds biggest know-it-all. I guess i will have to bring my gun with me to win this debate because he will never come out and say that what he is asking for is as likely and as possible as creating a state appointed church and getting rid of anyone who isn't a part of thatfaith. More power to you buddy but its not going to happen and the miracles you are saying it would bring aren't going to occur.

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:17 PM
you go into compton and and other similiar locations and get rid of every gun in those areas and i will support you with all my effort. What you are suggesting, removing all firearms in america, is impossible. Come to my door and ask for my guns, we will see how that goes. Did you go to school and learn about the civil war? Do you want another one because im pretty sure those with the guns will win.

GUNS ARE EVIL AND ONLY CAUSE PROBLEMS!!!!!






Im paying my bills right now and I have close to $600 on my credit card for ammo and range time alone this month. 9mm, .223/5.56 and 5.7x28 are either non existent or way too expensive. I promised myself I would never get into reloading for my pistols or AR but I might have to re-think that due to the current shortages. I spend so much time loading fo my long range guns that adding pistol and AR will occupy way too much time.
Oh well, sorry William I was jest fking with ya. I get bored and do this now and again to get everyone fired up.

This rain really needs to end in the NE so at least I can shoot at my place without having to fight the rust monster constantly, I swear rust is more annoying than the libs.

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 06:23 PM
GUNS ARE EVIL AND ONLY CAUSE PROBLEMS!!!!!






Im paying my bills right now and I have close to $600 on my credit card for ammo and range time alone this month. 9mm, .223/5.56 and 5.7x28 are either non existent or way too expensive. I promised myself I would never get into reloading for my pistols or AR but I might have to re-think that due to the current shortages. I spend so much time loading fo my long range guns that adding pistol and AR will occupy way too much time.
Oh well, sorry William I was jest fking with ya. I get bored and do this now and again to get everyone fired up.

This rain really needs to end in the NE so at least I can shoot at my place without having to fight the rust monster constantly, I swear rust is more annoying than the libs.
Hey, it was fun. I am a pre-law student so I can use all of rhe debating I can get. You ever go into compton and I will have your back. Nice talking to you :-)

edwin907
06-24-2009, 06:26 PM
GUNS ARE EVIL AND ONLY CAUSE PROBLEMS!!!!!


Never saw an evil gun, saw quite a few sh-tty ones, but I avoid them, but no evil guns.

I'm one of the lucky ones 'cause I bought it cheap and stacked it deep a while back. When SHTF, and it will, it's destiny, I'll be handing what I can't carry out, don't worry.
And it's the good sh-t!

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/556.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/BH75.jpg

And check out the price on this Q3131 5.56.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/AMMO3.jpg

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:35 PM
Hey, it was fun. I am a pre-law student so I can use all of rhe debating I can get. You ever go into compton and I will have your back. Nice talking to you :-)

Glad I could help. :thefinger::thefinger: Now as far as that pre-law ambulance chaser bullchit Ill tell ya you can.....:thefinger::thefinger::beer::beer: Half my family are lawyers the rest are democratic politicos, Im the blacksheep, repub/conservative/libertarian so I love a good debate.

PhilD
06-24-2009, 06:43 PM
LEO's are the most common targets of firearms. Totally untrue, the number of LEO's who die from gun shots each year is very small compared to the general population suffering the same fate, even pro rated.

It would seem misinformation is your forte though.

I think you all are nuts. Do you guys really need MACHINE GUNS. Very few of the frearms in this thread are "machine guns".


The current Mexican drug violence along the border is bieng waged w/ guns like these, and they are all coming from the USA.Totally untrue. Mexico claims that 90% of the wepons used in their border troubles come from the USA. Surprisingly, it turns out that this was somewhat of a misleading statement. First, very few of the weapons they confiscated were traceable to anywhere, out of the few that were traceable many came from the USA.

However, the vast majority of weapons confiscated were military issue AK47's, M16's and Uzi's, all of which are not excatly easily available in the USA, and cvilian posession of "machine guns" is highly regulated by the National Firearms Act.

Interestingly the 1968 ban in Mexico on firearms ownership as done nothing to alleviate their problems.


Your silly demand for these things under the guise of your "second ammenment right" is why innocent people die everyday.It is also why many people do not die, as they have the right to protect themselves. The scope of the Second Amendment is far greater than just having the right to carry and bear arms, there are issues involving the people having the right to defend themselves against tyranny.


Are you all preparing to overthrow the govt. or just paranoid that Obama will finally do the right thing and eliminate this supposed "right to bear arms". Sorry to break it to you, but Obama is not going to change anything, he wants to be remembered as a great President, not one that starts the country on the road to revolution.


The military and police hardly need these types of automatic machine guns, why do you need them.I'm lost for words on this one. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that the military can do their job without automatic weapons. God knows what you think of tanks, fighters, bombs, etc...


I truely hope that Obama signs onto the UN small arms ban and we can not only eliminate these Machine Guns but ALL GUNS from citizens.He's not going to, so maybe you should move to a peace loving country like Switzerland, where all men are in the "militia" and keep their "machine guns" at home ;) :thefinger:

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:46 PM
Never saw an evil gun, saw quite a few sh-tty ones, but I avoid them, but no evil guns.

I'm one of the lucky ones 'cause I bought it cheap and stacked it deep a while back. When SHTF, and it will, it's destiny, I'll be handing what I can't carry out, don't worry.
And it's the good sh-t!

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/556.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/BH75.jpg

And check out the price on this Q3131 5.56.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/AMMO3.jpg

Dont worry bout me. I got going early, that cc charge is to keep me even while maintaining and improving my competance. Shooting is not like riding a bike, at least for me, without constant practice my skill level tends to diminish.

guinness
06-24-2009, 06:49 PM
End of my silly self indulgent hi-jack(I coulnt resist).
I really have to post up a few pics.
My baby is a S&W tactical (NY style) picked it up 11-5-08 for some odd reason. ;)

WilliamAWebb
06-24-2009, 07:40 PM
End of my silly self indulgent hi-jack(I coulnt resist).
I really have to post up a few pics.
My baby is a S&W tactical (NY style) picked it up 11-5-08 for some odd reason. ;)

focusing on business law. Trying to make some money so i can do what i really want to do... offroad racing and rally car racing :-)

Dancin Dan
06-24-2009, 08:39 PM
End of my silly self indulgent hi-jack(I coulnt resist).
I really have to post up a few pics.
My baby is a S&W tactical (NY style) picked it up 11-5-08 for some odd reason. ;)

Man, yer incorrigimable.:shaking::laughing:

MaRShiN
06-24-2009, 08:52 PM
Well since Sacramento is so effin broke that theyre laying off a HUGE chunk of the police force, our chief of poliece is doing everything he can to make a CCW easier to aquire since soon we'll be looking out for ourselves.

I havn't had a weapon since one was issued to me from the Arms Room, but I do want to get one. Training and common sense can prevent alot of accidental shootings, and honestly the bottle of ammonia under your sink, the pills in the medicine cabinet and even the plastic bags in your junk drawer count for quite a few accidental deaths each year as well.

IMHO closing you eyes and pretending guns dont exist, or trying to keep them from entering out country won't work. They do exist, and they will always be here. The only question is WHO will have them, everyone, or just the violent criminals

Oh, this is the last "machine gun" I got to care for.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/piercedupdude/Mewithmymachinegun-1.jpg

guinness
06-25-2009, 03:02 AM
Totally untrue, the number of LEO's who die from gun shots each year is very small compared to the general population suffering the same fate, even pro rated.

It would seem misinformation is your forte though.

Very few of the frearms in this thread are "machine guns".


Totally untrue. Mexico claims that 90% of the wepons used in their border troubles come from the USA. Surprisingly, it turns out that this was somewhat of a misleading statement. First, very few of the weapons they confiscated were traceable to anywhere, out of the few that were traceable many came from the USA.

However, the vast majority of weapons confiscated were military issue AK47's, M16's and Uzi's, all of which are not excatly easily available in the USA, and cvilian posession of "machine guns" is highly regulated by the National Firearms Act.

Interestingly the 1968 ban in Mexico on firearms ownership as done nothing to alleviate their problems.


It is also why many people do not die, as they have the right to protect themselves. The scope of the Second Amendment is far greater than just having the right to carry and bear arms, there are issues involving the people having the right to defend themselves against tyranny.


Sorry to break it to you, but Obama is not going to change anything, he wants to be remembered as a great President, not one that starts the country on the road to revolution.


I'm lost for words on this one. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that the military can do their job without automatic weapons. God knows what you think of tanks, fighters, bombs, etc...


He's not going to, so maybe you should move to a peace loving country like Switzerland, where all men are in the "militia" and keep their "machine guns" at home ;) :thefinger:

Well since Sacramento is so effin broke that theyre laying off a HUGE chunk of the police force, our chief of poliece is doing everything he can to make a CCW easier to aquire since soon we'll be looking out for ourselves.

I havn't had a weapon since one was issued to me from the Arms Room, but I do want to get one. Training and common sense can prevent alot of accidental shootings, and honestly the bottle of ammonia under your sink, the pills in the medicine cabinet and even the plastic bags in your junk drawer count for quite a few accidental deaths each year as well.

IMHO closing you eyes and pretending guns dont exist, or trying to keep them from entering out country won't work. They do exist, and they will always be here. The only question is WHO will have them, everyone, or just the violent criminals

Oh, this is the last "machine gun" I got to care for.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/piercedupdude/Mewithmymachinegun-1.jpg

Guys,
I was just effin around. No worries Im totally progun, have an AR, pistols and various other hunting/ long range target and varmint rifles. I guess you missed my post where I admitted this. My silly little game to get people fired up when Im bored and doing paperwork or paying bills. Ive done it before and will do it again, just a little fun.:beer:

kerryp
06-25-2009, 07:51 AM
Well it was an interesting little debate, I didn't want to ruin it for you thus the reason I just LOL'd :beer:

MaRShiN
06-25-2009, 08:27 AM
oh :D well then. High Five!

ccdjeep
07-09-2009, 10:07 PM
Guys,
I was just effin around. No worries Im totally progun, have an AR, pistols and various other hunting/ long range target and varmint rifles. I guess you missed my post where I admitted this. My silly little game to get people fired up when Im bored and doing paperwork or paying bills. Ive done it before and will do it again, just a little fun.:beer:

I just read through that whole thread and was entirely confused at first cause I've read your POST on your AR, ya know the one with the middle fingers up and people hatin on your hat lol.

You seem to have heard all the liberal BS excuses as well, pretty fun Guinness, confused the heck outta me.

"wait a minute I thought he had a nice AR..."

tkob1060
07-09-2009, 11:35 PM
that was funny as hell, thanks William and Guinness :beer:

STUPIDFACE
07-12-2009, 10:35 AM
Heres mine.....Rock River Arms with ACOG TA01NSN and some other stuff...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/c0ldrink/RRAAR15.jpg


corey d

edwin907
07-12-2009, 11:41 AM
Here are some more.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SWR.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/valmet308.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Bayo.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/recon12.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/PKA.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Arsenal3.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/YHM1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Green3.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/NFMRP1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/G2a.jpg


Every one of these is a blast to shoot, but the 14.5" HBAR 1/9 Bushmaster A2 (built in carry handle) with the TA31, iron sights, and the OTAL red laser was my first personal favorite. It's great fun to switch from the ACOG to the iron sights just by sliding your cheek a little on the stock.

NateK
07-14-2009, 06:58 PM
Two MagPul special editions...:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/Sharpsy72/DSC00778.jpg

And a few Pmags to feed them...:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/Sharpsy72/DSC00859.jpg


I'm a member over at ARFCOM as I believe Edwin is...

STUPIDFACE
07-14-2009, 09:01 PM
Two MagPul special editions...:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/Sharpsy72/DSC00778.jpg

And a few Pmags to feed them...:

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp244/Sharpsy72/DSC00859.jpg


I'm a member over at ARFCOM as I believe Edwin is...

I like everything that magpul makes....cool stuff. Im a member or ar15.com also. I dont really go on there that much anymore though. Too much jeep to mess with gun....:D

corey d

Jared89
07-16-2009, 11:25 AM
Also a ARF member here...These are nouthing compared to some of yours but here they are.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/kx125/Guns/006-4.jpg

H8T2W8T
07-24-2009, 02:37 PM
Finally got the barrels in yesterday. Not complete yet, but good enough to make me smile:grinpimp:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm119/Air2Mud46/Pea%20Shooters/IMG_3130.jpg

rob4607
07-24-2009, 05:05 PM
Here are some more.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SWR.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/valmet308.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Bayo.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/recon12.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/PKA.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Arsenal3.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/YHM1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Green3.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/NFMRP1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/G2a.jpg


Every one of these is a blast to shoot, but the 14.5" HBAR 1/9 Bushmaster A2 (built in carry handle) with the TA31, iron sights, and the OTAL red laser was my first personal favorite. It's great fun to switch from the ACOG to the iron sights just by sliding your cheek a little on the stock.

hey I didn't know Ted Neugent was on thes forum, hell yeah! you still wearing the lion cloth cause that would be creepy. but with all of your aresenal I doubt many will talk smack!!! haha

sniper41
07-30-2009, 06:26 PM
I'll take one of each please!! Nice arms!! :beer:

Proud Rebel
07-30-2009, 06:52 PM
God I love this thread...:bounce:

CitadelJeep04
08-18-2009, 08:31 AM
I just saw this thread for the first time and almost choked rading Guiness's posts. My coworkers are looking at me funny because I keep banging on my desk... Nice to see it was a joke! I do have an applicable quote regarding the subject of gun control:
"Those that beat their guns into plows will plow for those with guns." Ben Franklin.

Anyways, I just picked up a new Bushmaster, so I'll have to get some pics when I can.

Great thread!

scottrock
08-18-2009, 08:56 AM
I just saw this thread for the first time and almost choked rading Guiness's posts. My coworkers are looking at me funny because I keep banging on my desk... Nice to see it was a joke! I do have an applicable quote regarding the subject of gun control:
"Those that beat their guns into plows will plow for those with guns." Ben Franklin.

Anyways, I just picked up a new Bushmaster, so I'll have to get some pics when I can.

Great thread!

Yeah no ****! I was about tell Guiness to have big ass glass of STFU :bounce::bounce:

As for mine, I just started a brand new build.

Spikes Tactical lower
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/rock_scott/WhatNot/2009_08010001.jpg

WRMorrison
08-18-2009, 08:59 AM
Sure, I'll play a bit...

Here's my latest "sporting rifle."
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd178/WRMorrison/projects/DSC02909.jpg

Nothing too special, except I machined my own lower as well:
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd178/WRMorrison/projects/forging12.jpg

Being a machinist has its advantages. :smokin:

-WRM

CitadelJeep04
08-18-2009, 09:27 AM
Hell yeah it does!! Nice friggin work!!

Jared89
08-18-2009, 10:35 AM
Sure, I'll play a bit...

Here's my latest "sporting rifle."
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd178/WRMorrison/projects/DSC02909.jpg

Nothing too special, except I machined my own lower as well:
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd178/WRMorrison/projects/forging12.jpg

Being a machinist has its advantages. :smokin:

-WRM

Very cool, is it that much cheaper to buy an 80% lower? Or did you do it just for a project.:beer:

WRMorrison
08-18-2009, 10:38 AM
Very cool, is it that much cheaper to buy an 80% lower? Or did you do it just for a project.:beer:

Both really, I enjoy making my own stuff and the forgings are about $30 each through DSA. But, if you don't already own most of the tooling, you'll spend as much on tooling as you would have on commercial receivers.

-WRM

TEXASKEV
09-03-2009, 11:13 PM
My Tommygun:)
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/texaskev/KevTommygun.jpg
AR15 in M16 Trim
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg266/texaskev/KevM16.jpg

Rudy
09-04-2009, 12:41 PM
Guys,
I was just effin around. No worries Im totally progun, have an AR, pistols and various other hunting/ long range target and varmint rifles. I guess you missed my post where I admitted this. My silly little game to get people fired up when Im bored and doing paperwork or paying bills. Ive done it before and will do it again, just a little fun.:beer:

You are a jerk, plain and simple. While I am new to this site I have been on different forums for over 15 years. I have seen people like you come and go. As you said you are not here to provide useful information or to help out. You are just here to piss people off and create problems.

I am really tired of people like you so in 15 years being on forums, You are the first people I will place on my Ignore List. Good day

guinness
09-04-2009, 02:03 PM
You are a jerk, plain and simple. While I am new to this site I have been on different forums for over 15 years. I have seen people like you come and go. As you said you are not here to provide useful information or to help out. You are just here to piss people off and create problems.

I am really tired of people like you so in 15 years being on forums, You are the first people I will place on my Ignore List. Good day

No problem. Ive been admonished by a moderator so it wont be happening again. Sorry I upset you while having a little fun; however, if you read most of my posts you will see that I do provide valuable info and reasonable opinions. If you also read some other members posts you will see they took it as fairly comical and had a good laugh.:beer::beer:

edwin907
09-04-2009, 05:35 PM
hey I didn't know Ted Nugent was on this forum, hell yeah! you still wearing the lion cloth cause that would be creepy. but with all of your aresenal I doubt many will talk smack!!! haha

Me and Ted go way back, all the way to the first time we saw him perform in 1975. The line up that night was Atlanta Rythum Section, Ted Nugent, and Lynyrd Skynyrd.
Ted was so pumped up that we left in the middle of "Sweet Home Alabama". It just didn't have enough energy!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FaAIxYJsq98/Sl-nd_w5L-I/AAAAAAAACdU/jjsdA35GVAU/s320/Ted+Nugent+&+The+Amboy+Dukes+-+Tooth,+Fang+&+Claw+-+Back.jpg

I've got a few rifles, and a sh-tload of ammo & mags for each. But we (the US) seem to have a lot of enemies (foreign and domestic), and when SHTF I'll be handing them out!


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SBRNF.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/VARMINTER24.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/PRS2.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/recon5.jpg

WRMorrison
09-04-2009, 08:42 PM
...and when SHTF I'll be handing them out!

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/SBRNF.jpg

If so, I've got dibs on the LMT upper...:smokin: :laughing:

-WRM

Jaws
09-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Heres mine.....Rock River Arms with ACOG TA01NSN and some other stuff...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/c0ldrink/RRAAR15.jpg


corey d

What sling is that?

Riverkid
09-06-2009, 08:23 PM
Troy Industries single point...:beer:

STUPIDFACE
09-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Troy Industries single point...:beer:

Riverkid is right. I like it, but magpul has one out now thats pretty cool.

corey d

Jaws
09-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Riverkid is right. I like it, but magpul has one out now that pretty cool.

corey d

That's pretty cool. Still looking for a good sling for my AR.

turbomeister
09-08-2009, 02:14 PM
Screw you all! I am so jealous of all of you who live in free states and those in Kommifornia that got grandfathered in with the "assault" rifles...

I'm just glad I got in with the "full" capacity handgun mags before the ban...

lockednloaded
09-08-2009, 02:43 PM
I will soon be able to add pictures to this thread. Just ordered a DPMS Pantherlite 16 A3. Can't wait for it to come in. Plan on Adding an EOTech 512, Surefire Scout, and Hogue grip. I don't know if I can express my excitement.

edwin907
09-08-2009, 04:26 PM
I will soon be able to add pictures to this thread. Just ordered a DPMS Pantherlite 16 A3. Can't wait for it to come in. Plan on Adding an EOTech 512, Surefire Scout, and Hogue grip. I don't know if I can express my excitement.

I'm a big fan of the Scout lights (with 240 lumen LEDs) and all my ARs except one have Hogue grips, but reconsider on the fragile Eotech, get an Aimpoint for sure!

lockednloaded
09-08-2009, 09:31 PM
I'll definitely look at an aimpoint. What's the big advantage/disadvantage for either sight? I've heard pretty good things about the EOTech, and pretty good things about the Aimpoint. I'm stoked, as this is my first AR. I own plenty of handguns, but now I'm moving to the big boy toys... It will put Jeep mods on hiatus for a while. I think it'll be a smart move.

edwin907
09-09-2009, 05:14 AM
The Aimpoint lasts practically forever on a single battery.
The Eotech has a 1 moa dot.
Aimpoint is tougher, and made in many models as well.
You can use a magnifier with both.

My friends that have spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan prefer the Aimpoint exclusively.

Jared89
09-09-2009, 09:06 AM
If you had the extra cash i would go with a aimpoint with a nice larue mount over a eotech.

lockednloaded
09-09-2009, 11:54 AM
thanks for the info guys. The gun shop I ordered from says it'll be in whithin three weeks. It's going to stay stock for a little while, until funds recover. I'll take a look at the aimpoint and see if I can find a deal.

edwin907
09-09-2009, 05:15 PM
thanks for the info guys. The gun shop I ordered from says it'll be in whithin three weeks. It's going to stay stock for a little while, until funds recover. I'll take a look at the aimpoint and see if I can find a deal.

Don't hesitate to go to ar15.com and check the classified for a used model.
Since the M3 (and ML3) have came out with the 2 MOA dot a lot of people have upgraded.
A friend of mine bought a ML2 4MOA the other day used but spotless, for $195 including the LaRue Tactical mount!

sniper41
09-10-2009, 08:51 PM
My two partners on the road!

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af166/doug5656/DSCF5066.jpg

lockednloaded
09-10-2009, 11:05 PM
Sniper- Which Surefire is that? I like the fact you can keep the stock fore end, and still have a light. Those look like two bad ass attitude adjusters...

sniper41
09-11-2009, 06:21 AM
It's a Colt LE 6920. Made specifically for Law Enforcement with tactical applications in mind. Very nice, light weapon, you could carry it all day and not realize it's there, ofcourse that would be if the general public didn't get so scared and upset over it so SOP says we can only "take it out" in crisis situations. Around the holidays, we have to stand the tunnels to NY, "just in case" yet I have to leave this back in the truck only to retrieve it if needed! WTF? The shot gun is a Benelli auto loader semi also very nice but we've been having problems with some of the barrels cracking and the charging handles get lost on the "street" guns (station shot guns). Mine is with me all the time so only I use and care for it!

Edit: thanks for the addition WR, the lights came with the weapon so I didn't know the info on that! For once the State did something right! The reason we (NJSP) carry nines intead of fourtys is because the state, and our Colonel at the time felt it would be "too aggressive a message to the public"! That's the truth! I couldn't believe it! Gotta love the "Consent Decree"! So I was surprised when the rolled out a few of those babies!!

WRMorrison
09-11-2009, 06:42 AM
Sniper- Which Surefire is that? I like the fact you can keep the stock fore end, and still have a light. Those look like two bad ass attitude adjusters...

http://www.surefire.com/M500A-Millennium-Carbine-Forend

-WRM

Jared89
09-11-2009, 08:52 AM
My two partners on the road!

http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af166/doug5656/DSCF5066.jpg

Cool sbs what lenght is it:bounce:.

sniper41
09-11-2009, 10:34 AM
The Benelli's were cut to 14" barrel, the LE's are a 16" barrel, both are great for tactical situations and confined space! Some of our "more used" (range) Benellis have had problems though but mine has been problem free!

Jaws
09-11-2009, 10:49 AM
It's a Colt LE 6920. Made specifically for Law Enforcement with tactical applications in mind. Very nice, light weapon, you could carry it all day and not realize it's there, ofcourse that would be if the general public didn't get so scared and upset over it so SOP says we can only "take it out" in crisis situations. Around the holidays, we have to stand the tunnels to NY, "just in case" yet I have to leave this back in the truck only to retrieve it if needed! WTF? The shot gun is a Benelli auto loader semi also very nice but we've been having problems with some of the barrels cracking and the charging handles get lost on the "street" guns (station shot guns). Mine is with me all the time so only I use and care for it!

Edit: thanks for the addition WR, the lights came with the weapon so I didn't know the info on that! For once the State did something right! The reason we (NJSP) carry nines intead of fourtys is because the state, and our Colonel at the time felt it would be "too aggressive a message to the public"! That's the truth! I couldn't believe it! Gotta love the "Consent Decree"! So I was surprised when the rolled out a few of those babies!!

Oooohh special LE version, full auto? Can you take them to a civilian range?? :grinpimp:

sniper41
09-11-2009, 12:12 PM
Oooohh special LE version, full auto? Can you take them to a civilian range?? :grinpimp:

Sadly, not fully auto, just "specially made" which really means a bigger price tag to the state I'd figure? I can and do take it to local ranges, only requirement is that it be "rifle safe" which many are! It's good for the Pines too- wait did I say that? :devil:;)

Jaws
09-11-2009, 12:17 PM
Sadly, not fully auto, just "specially made" which really means a bigger price tag to the state I'd figure? I can and do take it to local ranges, only requirement is that it be "rifle safe" which many are! It's good for the Pines too- wait did I say that? :devil:;)

:laughing::laughing: The pines, mine only goes safe-range-safe. Just like my other toys.

sniper41
09-11-2009, 02:06 PM
:laughing::laughing: The pines, mine only goes safe-range-safe. Just like my other toys.

There are places in the Pines Jay- I've never taken this rifle but a friend had a Japanese sniper rifle that we shot back there before. I don't really have access to the spot anymore though or that old rifle!

lockednloaded
09-11-2009, 04:59 PM
Been looking at the Aimpoint M2L, seems like a nicer sight than the eotech. It seems like I'd need to buy a $100 mount along with the sight, maybe I'm wrong. No worries, I still have time to look and research.

Jaws
09-11-2009, 07:30 PM
There are places in the Pines Jay- I've never taken this rifle but a friend had a Japanese sniper rifle that we shot back there before. I don't really have access to the spot anymore though or that old rifle!

I'd rather stay out of prison.:smokin: You're allowed to have toys with you, I am not. NJ is scary when it comes to that.

edwin907
09-11-2009, 08:24 PM
Here's a shot of my workbench (a simple little job perfect for rifle building) when I completed this 18" Douglas upper.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Build.jpg

And after the Recon.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/workbench.jpg

Sure wish you could get parts cheap again!

How about some NV.

This is an expensive case, with GenIII D-760 6X and PVS-14.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/pelican.jpg

And a NV surveilance setup.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/rail4.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/firehydrant.jpg

And of course you've got to have proper packaging.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/30b.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/i-SHOT1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/KRKT1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/i-shot.jpg

edwin907
09-11-2009, 08:25 PM
And your backup under the chest rig.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Bodyguard-M13.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Strider.jpg

A favorite photo of what I like to shoot.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/MK262.jpg

And target ID and rangefinding are important.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Leica.jpg

And in combat surveilance is everything, but so is speed.
You see this:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/jessicaPVS.jpg
But when you get there you see this:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/PVSc.jpg

But an exceptionally useful tool anyway:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/G7PVS14a.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/G7PVS14.jpg

Jaws
09-11-2009, 08:39 PM
Here's a shot of my workbench (a simple little job perfect for rifle building) when I completed this 18" Douglas upper.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Build.jpg

And after the Recon.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/workbench.jpg

Sure wish you could get parts cheap again!

How about some NV.

This is an expensive case, with GenIII D-760 6X and PVS-14.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/pelican.jpg

And a NV surveilance setup.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/rail4.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/firehydrant.jpg

And of course you've got to have proper packaging.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/30b.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/i-SHOT1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/KRKT1.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/i-shot.jpg

jeeessusss..you got some money in this. Very nice!

Jared89
09-11-2009, 08:47 PM
Wow:thefinger:.........You got what like $12-15k in optics alone thats AWESOME:smokin:. That sbr ak with the aimpoint is sweeet. Do you use ur NV stuff alot? i am guessing yes since that stuff isn't cheap to say the least. How do you like the black hills ammo.

Mudflap
09-11-2009, 11:34 PM
I've got a few toys as well:

Romanian, Vector and VEPR AK variants. Bushmaster AR-15
http://www.mischost.net/Camel/Assault/rifles2.jpg

Vector AK underfolder
http://www.mischost.net/Camel/AK47/Vector_Underfolder/uf1.jpg

Romanian WASR-10 AK
http://www.mischost.net/Camel/AK47/WASR-10_Military/romanian_std2.jpg

Springfield M1A
http://www.mischost.net/Camel/M1A/1.jpg

Yugoslavian SKS, surplus rifle *new* condition from storage (spent 2 days cleaning this sucker!)
http://www.mischost.net/Camel/sks/sks1.jpg

Yugoslavian SKS grenade launcher sight
http://www.mischost.net/Camel/sks/sks3.jpg

PhilD
09-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Been looking at the Aimpoint M2L, seems like a nicer sight than the eotech. It seems like I'd need to buy a $100 mount along with the sight, maybe I'm wrong. No worries, I still have time to look and research.I have an original Aimpoint Comp-M and use the rail grabber mount. I did use a small riser rail mount to get it up a little as it was little awkward to use on the flat top rail.

PhilD
09-12-2009, 10:48 AM
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Strider.jpg

Nice Strider :smokin:

PhilD
09-12-2009, 10:51 AM
And your backup under the chest rig.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/Bodyguard-M13.jpg

The P7M13 is one of my favorite pistols, but I don't use it much:

http://www.philday.com/gallery/guns/images/016.jpg

edwin907
09-12-2009, 12:34 PM
I tell you the Night Vision is a great buy, it only keeps going up in price.
Offroad, at night, it's great to take the PVS-14 and an IR illuminator with you on walks through the woods. You can see all kinds of wildlife! The nice thing about the NV is that it's great without a gun!

The Black Hills MK262 is the best 5.56 ammo you can get, it has a heck of a punch and is very accuate in my 1/7 SPR barrels, plus it's great SBR ammo, although I prefer my Hornady 5.56 75gr for that.

Love that VEPR, never got around to getting one, but the few I've shot had great accuracy. And I love that underfolder. Would like to have a M1, the only .308 I have is the Valmet M78, becides a Spanish "M16" bolt action, luckily I got like 9 mags when I bought it, they are like $200 each a mag now!

I have had my P7M13 hard chromed by Tripp Research, wish I had one in the original black, but you can't have everything! It's a wonderful pistol, very accurate thanks to the fixed barrel, but as you know, it gets a little hot for target shooting. I wanted to get a Navy AAC suppressor for it, but trust me, it's really not worth the trouble, not that quiet and a lot of blowback.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/NILL1.jpg

Jared89
09-12-2009, 02:06 PM
I always thought the p7 was ugly (i know i know) But wow ^^^^ That is sharp looking very nice.

PhilD
09-12-2009, 03:36 PM
I have had my P7M13 hard chromed by Tripp Research, Looks great :smokin: My carry piece was satin chromed by Virgil, he does top notch work.

RUDY850
09-12-2009, 04:02 PM
The guns you are all showing are only good for one thing:shaking:
There is no need for any of you to have these kind of guns





















And the one thing they are good for is filling up my gun safe. So send them all to me:laughing::beer::D

Jester
09-13-2009, 08:15 AM
Been toying with the idea of selling it, but this is my Bushmaster.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd56/redsoxfan1423/AR-15001.jpg

lockednloaded
09-13-2009, 09:01 AM
Damn Edwin, you have quite the collection going on there. You really spent some time and money on those. They look great. Hopefully my collection looks somewhat like that one day.

edwin907
09-13-2009, 11:55 AM
Jester, don't ever sell that rifle. It should be a constitutional obligation that all red white and blue blooded american males should have to own a semi auto version of our nation's military rifle, for national defense!

LL, I've been into the semi auto military style rifles for a long time, and sold a bunch I should've kept, as well as given away a bunch of stuff to newcomers that I could have gotten a lot of good money for.
I'm smart that along the way I did get a couple of legal suppressors with tax stamps, as well as 3 SBRs.
Don' have or even want any full auto stuff, can't afford it I have a JEEP! FA is hardly worth the trouble anyway, as well as look at ammo prices!

My "collection" isn't really that, I have 4 AR lowers (2 registered as SBR) and multiple uppers. And of course just about every needed accessory to go with the combinations. As well as some AKs, and some other stuff.

The night vision in particular gives you tremendous capability. It's great fun to shoot a suppressed SPR at night and easily achieve chest hits at 500 yards! And thanks to my machinist buddy who made me a adapter to mount the NV 6X scope with a return to zero mount, I can actually have a true day/night platform that doesn't require re-zeroing.
Add in an IR laser, PVS-14, and illuminator and you've got the short range covered as well with your SBR or SPR.

I see guys with way more rifles than me, but little in terms of accessories, NV, often optics, ammo, magazines, weaponlight, illuminator, mag carriers/chest rigs, slings, spare parts, or in general, combat readiness/effectiveness.

I'd rather have one rifle properly equipped with battle gear, than 10 with none of the things they need to actually perform.

At a minimum, you need spare parts, mags, ammo, weaponlight, optic (I have a friend who is an Marine sniper instructor, even to him red dot sight at a minimum), sling, and most importantly of all, training!

One rifle or 50, keep this stuff in mind and you'll be alright!

SgtMikey
09-25-2009, 07:31 PM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/uspswatcop/100_0360.jpg

Mikey

jku_rubicon
09-28-2009, 05:09 PM
Pardon the black and white pic, it's the only one I have left since I lost all my weapons in a tragic boating accident a long long time ago. :D

WRMorrison
09-28-2009, 08:21 PM
I need to dredge the bottom of this lake that everyone seems to be losing everything in. Any ideas where it's located? Bermuda Triangle?

-WRM

SgtMikey
10-11-2009, 11:45 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/uspswatcop/redo5-1.jpg

Mikey

dmhines
10-14-2009, 08:25 PM
My AR's ....

Colt 6721 with 6921HB barrel installed ... and my custom roll marked 11.5" Commando ...

Also have an Arsenal Milled SAS M-7 in the safe .... :smokin:

http://homepage.mac.com/dmhines/mav/toybox.jpg

ulev1st
10-14-2009, 08:53 PM
Here are a few of my toys...........

rooster
10-15-2009, 07:48 PM
Really, have you ever read about collateral damage? Our country sends people to war with weapons capable of killing every one in site including innocent civilians. I understand that our military needed these types of weapons during true war. Now however we are basically policing other nations, and like our domestic police agencies these weapons should only be used in the most dire of circumstances ie. SWAT(jack booted thug) instances.
More importantly we need to eliminate these weapons availability to citizens in order to reduce crime! Until guns are completely banned no individual will be safe.

Right...so Im a drug dealer or thug and Im going to turn in my weapon because Obama passes a ban. Sure, I'll jump right on that. All the while these guns are used on innocent citizens because you want to ban weapons. However its not the responsible users that commit these crimes. Why not do a better job to get them out of their hands and into the hands of people that use them for protection from them or sport. I dare someone to take mine away. I have a conceiled carry permit. Hopefully you wont need someone like me one day because your being robbed or your family being mugged.

venom
10-15-2009, 07:51 PM
Right...so Im a drug dealer or thug and Im going to turn in my weapon because Obama passes a ban. Sure, I'll jump right on that. All the while these guns are used on innocent citizens because you want to ban weapons. However its not the responsible users that commit these crimes. Why not do a better job to get them out of their hands and into the hands of people that use them for protection from them or sport. I dare someone to take mine away. I have a conceiled carry permit. Hopefully you wont need someone like me one day because your being robbed or your family being mugged.

Jeez guinness, your still hooking 'em !

Rooster - he's a shooter that was messing with us.

rooster
10-15-2009, 08:04 PM
Jeez guinness, your still hooking 'em !

Rooster - he's a shooter that was messing with us.

LOL thats not funny!!

lockednloaded
10-15-2009, 09:17 PM
Guns are bad. Every night I go to sleep, my gun locked away. The next morning I wake up, she's laying on the table covered in blood. I look at her and ask what she did last night. She just shrugs and tells me it's none of my business. Guns are so evil. Pure, unadulterated evil. But so much fun!

venom
10-15-2009, 09:20 PM
Duh!
guns don't kill people
BULLETS kill people!
jeez

well, I guess you could beat someone to death with a 2 ton SKS...

joes-jk
10-15-2009, 10:35 PM
Duh!
guns don't kill people
BULLETS kill people!
jeez

well, I guess you could beat someone to death with a 2 ton SKS...

no...gaping holes in vital oragans kill people :grinpimp:

guinness
10-16-2009, 03:15 AM
Right...so Im a drug dealer or thug and Im going to turn in my weapon because Obama passes a ban. Sure, I'll jump right on that. All the while these guns are used on innocent citizens because you want to ban weapons. However its not the responsible users that commit these crimes. Why not do a better job to get them out of their hands and into the hands of people that use them for protection from them or sport. I dare someone to take mine away. I have a conceiled carry permit. Hopefully you wont need someone like me one day because your being robbed or your family being mugged.

Jeez guinness, your still hooking 'em !

Rooster - he's a shooter that was messing with us.

LOL thats not funny!!

Cant believe Im still catching anything in this thread. Rooster, I gave it up a few pages back, you gotta read allll the posts:) Im a pro 2nd guy, carry concealed and shoot almost every weekend.:beer:

Riverkid
10-16-2009, 10:05 AM
Training is fun, too...;)

venom
10-16-2009, 12:21 PM
no...gaping holes in vital oragans kill people :grinpimp:

true, true...

guinness
10-17-2009, 05:55 PM
Just went to a local store to help my cousin w/ an ar purchase. I was happy to see several styles and brands on the shelves.
He was looking at either the sig556 or a smith M&P like mine, just not the tactical version.
So after an hour of hemming and hawing he decided he wasnt ready to make a decision. Lil basterd kept me there for that long and walked away empty handed.:pissed:




















Then again I walked out w/ a new LMT:smokin:, and he ended up buying a new deer rifle.:beer:

venom
10-17-2009, 06:04 PM
sig 556 ... droooooool

guinness
10-17-2009, 06:21 PM
sig 556 ... droooooool

It was a NY compliant version and though the mechanics are the same as the non-compliant I didnt like it. It has a very bulky feel. The rails are all small and forward. The forestock is deff. way too big and the shoulder stock(full non skeletonized, non-folding) wasnt comfortable to me.

joes-jk
10-17-2009, 07:15 PM
sig 556 ... droooooool

x2 just when i held one i felt there just unbalenced imo. they feel front heavy.

venom
10-17-2009, 07:27 PM
x2 just when i held one i felt there just unbalenced imo. they feel front heavy.

I have yet to actually get my hands on one, no one around here stocks them
I assumed that since I like my sig handguns so much that their AR would be great too.
Perhaps I will change my mind when I actually get ahold of one.
Until then my Sig Pro is a great compliment for my Rockriver

That said, I've always really liked the S&W M&P as well, that I HAVE gotten ahold of and can say with certainty I liked it.

guinness
10-17-2009, 07:57 PM
I have yet to actually get my hands on one, no one around here stocks them
I assumed that since I like my sig handguns so much that their AR would be great too.
Perhaps I will change my mind when I actually get ahold of one.
Until then my Sig Pro is a great compliment for my Rockriver

That said, I've always really liked the S&W M&P as well, that I HAVE gotten ahold of and can say with certainty I liked it.

I was psyched to get my hands on a SIG556 as well, mostly because of thier handguns. I dont own one but everyone I have shot has been comfortable and accurate, and all thier owners swear to the reliability.

Jared89
10-18-2009, 06:41 PM
Well any piston ar15 is going to be front heavy.

SgtMikey
10-18-2009, 07:38 PM
"Originally Posted by venom
sig 556 ... droooooool"

I too would steer away from the Sig, much better off sticking with the mid-high end AR platform for reliable use in either DI or Gas Piston.

The Sig would be different IMHO if you were working in/for an organization that could maintain, fix and replace what needs it but like others it is not a long gun that I'm impressed with.

And since this is an Assault Rifle thread here is another one.......
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e364/uspswatcop/P3050024.jpg

Mikey

lockednloaded
10-19-2009, 09:14 AM
I had a chance to handle a full auto HK 416 this weekend. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. Piston driven, Schmidt-Bender adjustable optic, Surefire and Magpul goodies on it. Did I mention it was full auto? My pants were a little tight after holding it....

Benchmark Designs Inc.
10-19-2009, 02:19 PM
Got a bunch of toys, but this is my fav.

Robinson XCR 5.56 16" Heavy Barrel, Eotech, ARMS 40 rear BUIS, Midwest Industries folding front BUIS with tritium post, Magpul MIAD grip, Pmags, rail covers, etc.

edwin907
10-21-2009, 06:04 PM
Some photos from today.

14.5" WOA Scout

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216549.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216552.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216504.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216509.jpg


16" Kreiger Recon


http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216540.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216519.jpg

SgtMikey
10-21-2009, 08:07 PM
Nice sticks edwin!!!!

Mikey

Riverkid
10-22-2009, 07:21 PM
Well any piston ar15 is going to be front heavy.

My LWRC isn't too bad. I have no trouble with it at all.:smokin: They only get heavy once you throw a light, bipod, etc all over the rails...:beer:

Riverkid
10-22-2009, 07:25 PM
Edwin, is that shield on your Acog from keeping the reticle from getting too bright in sunlight? I have a problem with that. Where did you get piece of gear?:beer:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216519.jpg

jku_rubicon
10-23-2009, 09:06 AM
Edwin, is that shield on your Acog from keeping the reticle from getting too bright in sunlight? I have a problem with that. Where did you get piece of gear?:beer:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A216519.jpg

+1, that's a nice cover...... info on it?

And for the guy running the Comp M4s with the 3x Magnifier, nice setup.
I was going to do the same but went with a TA33 ACOG instead and just sold it after not being totally impressed with it.
I am looking at a TA 11H to replace it.
What MOA dot does your CompM4s have, a 2 or 4?
What's your target ID and hold over look like at 300? I am still wanting the TA 11H but keep finding myself interested in the CompM4s / folding Magnifier setup. :beer:

edwin907
10-23-2009, 02:40 PM
The cover on the fiber optic tube of the TA11C ACOG is a ScopeFly.
I got it at 3gunstuff.com when I was buying a CatTail for my MR/T 3-9 Leupold on the Mod0.

I like i better than duct tape or the bicycle tube stretched over the ACOG 'cause it is much more easily adjustable.

I'm not familiar with the TA11H, but it must be similar to this 11C.
I like the 11C 'cause the BDC is a near perfect match to the 75/77gr ammo when fired out of a 16" AR.
As far as the ACOGs go, I have a TA31, TA31F, TA55A, and a TA11C.
I really like ACOGs since the BAC works really well for me with little phoria.
The 11C with the donut is terrific up close, but has an accurate BDC for longer shots.
I hear complaints about the donut not being precise enough, and my response is you aren't even using it at 300 meters plus! If it's 100 yard precision you're after, you don't need a combat sight, or an AR15.

I'm surprised the TA33 was a disappointment, but it is only 3X, and I'm not sure how it does under low light or BAC. The objective does seem kind of small for fading light (I love my TA55A here!).

The magnifier has terrific optics, target ID at 300 would be like the TA33.
My M4S is 2MOA, they all are, they don't make a 4MOA one. I have a M2L (on an Arsenl AK) which is 4MOA. And a T-1 on a Krink which is 3.2 MOA.

At 300 meters (with a 50 meter zero) your holdover will depend on ammo with the 14.5".
5.56 pressure 75gr Hornady will be 3 (2 MOA/dot) dots.
M855 will be just over 2 dots.

I'll have to add the M4S has the best dot of any Aimpoint I've used, and it is terrific with the PVS-14.
And everybody raves about the T-1, yep, it's great, on my Krink. But I'd never put one on even a SBR AR when I could get a M4S.

Here is some data on the TA11C that may make you re-think your ACOG choice. The TA11C is designed for carry handle .308 use, even though the designation at the bottom of the sight looking through it is "M60".
The consequence of it all is that it works perfectly with the 75/77gr ammo.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/Bullet-Path3.jpg

edwin907
10-23-2009, 02:47 PM
Forgot to add, I got my Redi-Mod for the Scout.
An extra 30 rounds of M855.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A226560.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A226558.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A226568.jpg

Matches my other SBR.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A156454.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_A156447.jpg

Jaws
10-23-2009, 04:20 PM
Forgot to add, I got my Redi-Mod for the Scout.
An extra 30 rounds of M855.

Matches my other SBR.



Very nice rifles!

Riverkid
10-25-2009, 08:28 AM
The cover on the fiber optic tube of the TA11C ACOG is a ScopeFly.
I got it at 3gunstuff.com when I was buying a CatTail for my MR/T 3-9 Leupold on the Mod0.

Sweet, I got a couple ordered up. They wanted to know how I heard about 3GS and I said a gent named Edwin...:grinpimp:

edwin907
10-25-2009, 11:52 AM
Sweet, I got a couple ordered up. They wanted to know how I heard about 3GS and I said a gent named Edwin...:grinpimp:

Terrific! And many thanks!

Now, here are some more pics, from the recently replaced hard drive.



http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/20AR.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/20in6.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/LMT-MRPc.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/LMT.Phantom.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/MRPOTAL.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/MRPSS2.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/MRPTA31F.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/NFMRP1.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/OTALMRP1.jpg

edwin907
10-25-2009, 11:53 AM
http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/PRS4.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/recon11.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/recon2.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/recon3.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/SPRd.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/varmint.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/VARMINTER24.jpg

The only way my workbench would look this clean again would be if I bought another one!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/workbench.jpg

Riverkid
10-26-2009, 09:04 PM
Is that a black granite counter top?:grinpimp:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/workbench.jpg

I ordered a couple more ACOG's with a TA-55 also after seeing your setup. I have two new Noveske's incoming and also a custom upper from Wes at MSTN. This is almost as bad as Jeep upgrades...:beer:

edwin907
10-27-2009, 08:15 AM
Is that a black granite counter top?:grinpimp:



I ordered a couple more ACOG's with a TA-55 also after seeing your setup. I have two new Noveske's incoming and also a custom upper from Wes at MSTN. This is almost as bad as Jeep upgrades...:beer:

Wow, beautiful rifes !!!

Riverkid, no, it's the cheap top that came with the pre-fab bench. It has about 5 coats of poly I put on it. Still, it's a very nice workbench for working on rifles.

You will love the TA55. It's low light capability is astounding, and I find that BAC with it works very well due to the increased magnification that blurs easily when moved, and the super bright image (even with ARD) that snaps into focus immediately when you stop scanning wioth it.

WES builds some nice stuff, doesn't he.
He is the guru of setup, if you aren't sure what buffer to run just ask WES.
WES set up one of my uppers, and it has never had a failure to feed, fire, or extract!

jku_rubicon
10-27-2009, 08:21 AM
The cover on the fiber optic tube of the TA11C ACOG is a ScopeFly.
I got it at 3gunstuff.com when I was buying a CatTail for my MR/T 3-9 Leupold on the Mod0.

I like i better than duct tape or the bicycle tube stretched over the ACOG 'cause it is much more easily adjustable.

I'm not familiar with the TA11H, but it must be similar to this 11C.
I like the 11C 'cause the BDC is a near perfect match to the 75/77gr ammo when fired out of a 16" AR.
As far as the ACOGs go, I have a TA31, TA31F, TA55A, and a TA11C.
I really like ACOGs since the BAC works really well for me with little phoria.
The 11C with the donut is terrific up close, but has an accurate BDC for longer shots.
I hear complaints about the donut not being precise enough, and my response is you aren't even using it at 300 meters plus! If it's 100 yard precision you're after, you don't need a combat sight, or an AR15.

I'm surprised the TA33 was a disappointment, but it is only 3X, and I'm not sure how it does under low light or BAC. The objective does seem kind of small for fading light (I love my TA55A here!).

The magnifier has terrific optics, target ID at 300 would be like the TA33.
My M4S is 2MOA, they all are, they don't make a 4MOA one. I have a M2L (on an Arsenl AK) which is 4MOA. And a T-1 on a Krink which is 3.2 MOA.

At 300 meters (with a 50 meter zero) your holdover will depend on ammo with the 14.5".
5.56 pressure 75gr Hornady will be 3 (2 MOA/dot) dots.
M855 will be just over 2 dots.

I'll have to add the M4S has the best dot of any Aimpoint I've used, and it is terrific with the PVS-14.
And everybody raves about the T-1, yep, it's great, on my Krink. But I'd never put one on even a SBR AR when I could get a M4S.

Here is some data on the TA11C that may make you re-think your ACOG choice. The TA11C is designed for carry handle .308 use, even though the designation at the bottom of the sight looking through it is "M60".
The consequence of it all is that it works perfectly with the 75/77gr ammo.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/Bullet-Path3.jpg

It's funny you mention the TA11 C being for a .308. I am shooting M855 and had the TA33R-9 which is the .308 BDC.
Actually I do shoot at 50 - 300 and even though I was shooting 62g M855 with a .308 BDC it was very accurate out to 300 at least so I can see how that would work for you with a heavier round.

Anyway, the TA11 H has a BDC calibrated for 5.56 / 62 g ammo. It has longer eye relief than the TA33 series and also a wider downrange view.
Also, it is the horse shoe reticle with the 2 MOA red dot centered in it instead of the Chevron like the TA 33.
I just didn't like the way the Chevron obstructed the site picture and having to move off target at 300 to aquire good target ID then moving back on target for the shot( IE a bowling pin at 300 ) torso at 300 wasn't nearly as bad though.

Anyway, like anything else, reticle's are personal preference. I am going to try the Horse shoe and see how I like it. :beer:

http://trijicon.com/parts/TA11H_RedHorse.jpg

Riverkid
10-27-2009, 10:21 AM
WES builds some nice stuff, doesn't he.
He is the guru of setup, if you aren't sure what buffer to run just ask WES.
WES set up one of my uppers, and it has never had a failure to feed, fire, or extract!

I've had him build a few for me. My shooting buds and I all have his 6.8 uppers as well. He certainly knows what he is doing.:smokin: I'll be seeing how that TA 55 does, as it will be going on one of his uppers... I see you noticed he always types in CAPS. Lol.

Nice work on the bench. Very stylish!:grinpimp:

NateK
10-27-2009, 07:28 PM
I'd love to have one of these: http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=254, for my 16" Magpul.
Recently bought a T-1 http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=149 for a S&W MP15-22 that will be soon.
List of MagPul goodies that need to be ordered for it as well... :bawling:

Riverkid
10-27-2009, 09:16 PM
LaRue is a great company and you really can't go wrong with them. The Acog is one of the best scopes you could ever own for a rifle. This hits especially home once you get some good training. The people handling the work have nothing but endorsements for the Trijicon lineup...:smokin:

edwin907
10-27-2009, 09:25 PM
The real beauty of the TA11C BDC is that it's a carry handle .308 which is the only one that is ideal for the flat top AR shooting 75/77gr ammo.
The flat top .308 are pretty good out to about 400 meters, then they are just a bit off (about MOA I think).
Now I have the TA55A whose reticle is not bad for a 18"+ AR shooting 5.56 75gr Hornady. The BDC is useable out to 800 meters without figuring up any special dope.
I also use it on the 14.5" Scout, it's nearly perfect for M855 out to 500 meters, and everybody that shoots with it loves it.
I really would like to see that TA11H reticle, I'm not big on green because my eyes are quite sensitive to red. It may be the best reticle for BAC, but the donut is dang good! Please keep us posted on your experiences with it.

I've got a TA31 on a A2 14.5" and I just love it. It is an excellent choice for carry handle mounting. This is one of the most fun ARs to shoot, plus I'm adding the mount for the SpecWar2 can.
I also have a TA31F, it's the chevron and quite good on a 16" AR shooting M855. It's on semi-permanent loan to my machinist buddy, who uses it with a 16" and loves it.

I am still partial to the TA11 series, however. Particularly if BAC works for you.

jku_rubicon
10-27-2009, 10:07 PM
The real beauty of the TA11C BDC is that it's a carry handle .308 which is the only one that is ideal for the flat top AR shooting 75/77gr ammo.
The flat top .308 are pretty good out to about 400 meters, then they are just a bit off (about MOA I think).
Now I have the TA55A whose reticle is not bad for a 18"+ AR shooting 5.56 75gr Hornady. The BDC is useable out to 800 meters without figuring up any special dope.
I also use it on the 14.5" Scout, it's nearly perfect for M855 out to 500 meters, and everybody that shoots with it loves it.
I really would like to see that TA11H reticle, I'm not big on green because my eyes are quite sensitive to red. It may be the best reticle for BAC, but the donut is dang good! Please keep us posted on your experiences with it.

I've got a TA31 on a A2 14.5" and I just love it. It is an excellent choice for carry handle mounting. This is one of the most fun ARs to shoot, plus I'm adding the mount for the SpecWar2 can.
I also have a TA31F, it's the chevron and quite good on a 16" AR shooting M855. It's on semi-permanent loan to my machinist buddy, who uses it with a 16" and loves it.

I am still partial to the TA11 series, however. Particularly if BAC works for you.

Will do. I will also praise Larue Tac for great products, my TA33R-9 sat in one of their dos mini mounts and I loved it.
I borrowed my buddies TA31RCOM4 and shot with it a bit but it too has the chevron reticle. I have a M&P 15 and while I do have a detachable carry handle I mount my optics right to the rail system not the handle.

My thoughts on the TA33 / TA31 / TA11:

TA33 is a nice small package and quality glass of course being Trijicon, nice eye relief.
3x is a little weak, Chevron started to piss me off, real narrow downrange view which I did not like.

TA31RCO was really nice, liked the killflash and stadia lines. 4x helped target ID at 300+ and field of vision downrange was much wider than the 33.
Only drawback for me personally was the short eye relief and the Chevron reticle.

TA11H ( Red Horseshoe version ) looks like I will love it. Huge eye relief advantage over the TA31, and also longer eye relief than the TA33 which was already good and longer than the TA31.
Wider field of vision downrange than the TA33 but a little less than the TA31.
Horse shoe reticle looks fast for <100 and at 300 provides a clearer less cramped and obstructed target picture ( verticle red line for 300 has a more open space above it and on sides than the chevron )
With the longer eye relief and red dot set inside the horse shoe, I think the BAC will work more than with my TA33, I hope so at least.

I almost bought a TA11H last week but spent the 1000+ on a new bumper and winch for my Jeep instead so it's iron sites for now but I will post up when I get it.

NateK
10-27-2009, 10:22 PM
LaRue is a great company and you really can't go wrong with them. The Acog is one of the best scopes you could ever own for a rifle. This hits especially home once you get some good training. The people handling the work have nothing but endorsements for the Trijicon lineup...:smokin:

LaRue is the sh*t. Many a paychech spent there. :bawling:
I've heard good things about the ACOG but never used one.
Good training you say?... lol something like MagPul Dynamic Carbine 1? (Class completed on my 19th B-Day :D)
They spoke nothing but praise of Aimpoint (I have 2), no talk about magnified optics to speak of.

Riverkid
10-28-2009, 02:19 PM
LaRue is the sh*t. Many a paychech spent there. :bawling:
I've heard good things about the ACOG but never used one.
Good training you say?... lol something like MagPul Dynamic Carbine 1? (Class completed on my 19th B-Day :D)
They spoke nothing but praise of Aimpoint (I have 2), no talk about magnified optics to speak of.

I have the Magpul 1 and 2 DVD's. Those boys are very good and VERY fast. The crew I shoot with would love to take one of there MD courses. BUST EM!:grinpimp: I have a couple Aimpoints as well, bit I don't plan on using one of those rifles at 200+ yardage. I was hitting the 200 yard target with my Micro T1 but with a 4 MOA dot it makes it kinda tough. It is setup a lot like Travis' rig. I don't like the magnifiers with aimpoint setups... Don't you have the Magpul/Noveske rifles? You dog!

The range where we train has some longer range courses and they have seen and broken about every piece of gear out there. All the range masters are huge ACOG fans. I am going to take my 18" SPR with a new ACOG for the next class... Until we decide to start taking the .308 precision courses.:smokin::smokin:

NateK
10-28-2009, 08:05 PM
I have the Magpul 1 and 2 DVD's. Those boys are very good and VERY fast. The crew I shoot with would love to take one of there MD courses. BUST EM!:grinpimp: I have a couple Aimpoints as well, bit I don't plan on using one of those rifles at 200+ yardage. I was hitting the 200 yard target with my Micro T1 but with a 4 MOA dot it makes it kinda tough. It is setup a lot like Travis' rig. I don't like the magnifiers with aimpoint setups... Don't you have the Magpul/Noveske rifles? You dog!

The range where we train has some longer range courses and they have seen and broken about every piece of gear out there. All the range masters are huge ACOG fans. I am going to take my 18" SPR with a new ACOG for the next class... Until we decide to start taking the .308 precision courses.:smokin::smokin:

Yes I've got the first two MagPul/Noveske rifles. :thefinger:
Both of the MagPul Dynamics DVD's are great, but nothing compared to being there! :smokin:
I'm thinking of swapping out the M4s on my 16" for that ACOG that I posted a link to.
But then I'd have to get something to put the M4s on... :shaking: (brd)
I guess I could manage having two optics for one rifle.
I may have to get the TA31H for my precision rig that is being built right now for a temp and get a fancy scope later on. :D
If you're SO finds out about brd you're screwed. I am... :bawling:
She thinks one gun a year is plenty :shaking:

fnc
10-28-2009, 08:18 PM
My EBR's:

My Bushmaster XM15-E2S:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/br004-1.jpg

My J.L.D. PTR-91:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/br006-1.jpg

My Yugo SKS:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/br007-1.jpg

My FN-FNC Para w/Beta C-Mag:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/br002-1.jpg

Handy settings on the FNC:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/br003.jpg

Not exactly an EBR, but at least it's black and a rifle:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/br008-1.jpg

Going' old school:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/fieldhowitzer002.jpg

OK, so that last one wasn't mine, but for $11K it could have been.

Riverkid
10-29-2009, 05:37 PM
If you're SO finds out about brd you're screwed. I am... :bawling:
She thinks one gun a year is plenty :shaking:

LOL I am WAY over ther limit. I hope New Years gets here soon...:grinpimp:

guinness
10-29-2009, 05:49 PM
LOL I am WAY over ther limit. I hope New Years gets here soon...:grinpimp:

Noveske= niiiice.
Technically thats not a gun, its just an upper, no need to worry.:)

edwin907
10-29-2009, 05:50 PM
LOL I am WAY over ther limit. I hope New Years gets here soon...:grinpimp:

Great looking upper. Absolutely first class!

Got to the range today (finally, rained out the last 3 times) to zero in the two new M4S Aimpoints.
Shot up about half of the days ammo supply (M855 & MK262), got the sights dialed in at 50 yards really good, then I remembered the SpecWar2 suppressor!
Slapped it on the MRP and quietly burnt up the rest of it!

Got to get down there with the SPR (new Douglas barrel) and get the NSX dialed in next week! I won't forget about the OPS 12th though!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/262.jpg

edwin907
10-29-2009, 05:58 PM
Another question, how many mags you guys keep loaded and with what.

I'm currently at 6X28 with BHBB 75gr, 10X28 & 7X30(Pmag) MK262, 8X30 M855(Pmag) for my ARs.
For the AKs I'll guess from memory, 3X75 (Chicom drums), 6X30 (Bulgy waffle), 16X30 & 6X40 (E. Europe & Chicom), 6X20(Hungarian 20rd) all 7.62X39.

guinness
10-29-2009, 06:22 PM
4x29 of hornaday tap 62gr, 26x29 of privi 62gr bthp match. Bunch of 10's loaded misc. and about 5k of the privi and 2k 55gr fed hp for xtra, jic rnds.

Riverkid
10-29-2009, 07:07 PM
Noveske= niiiice.
Technically thats not a gun, its just an upper, no need to worry.:)

LOL, being from a Kommie state, I have two Noveske stripped lowers I'm picking up from my nice 10 day wait next week. Noveske won't ship a rifle to Cali, so I'm just going to build two of them...

The upper I'm getting from them tomorrow will be REALLY nice.:grinpimp:

And Edwin, I'm hating all that BH ammo you shoot. I can't even find it around here, so I shoot 75 grain TAP's...:smokin:

edwin907
10-29-2009, 07:17 PM
Well, Guiness, I'm glad to know I'm not the only fruitcake here!!!

I need to get some more backup ammo. I probably am down to 13-14K now!

FNC, nice collection!

Is that a AK Brake Bushy HBAR?
My 14.5" Bushy 1/9 HBAR A2 is the best shooting chromelined barrel I have ever had. I have a ton of Q3131A and it shoots that 55gr dang near like a match rifle. Nothing to get a 1.25MOA 100 yard group with it all day, hot or cold, with the TA31 ACOG on the carry handle.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/YHM1.jpg

Riverkid
10-29-2009, 07:22 PM
You take some great pics of some very nice hdwe Edwin.:) What camera are you using?

edwin907
10-29-2009, 07:22 PM
Riverkid, you're getting another upper tomorrow!

I've got like 4 lowers, 2 with SBR tax stamp & Redi-Mod, and 8 uppers.

Planning on another lower, for my Magpul PRS stock, to use with the Varminter upper, I guess.

Riverkid
10-29-2009, 07:28 PM
Riverkid, you're getting another upper tomorrow!

I've got like 4 lowers, 2 with SBR tax stamp & Redi-Mod, and 8 uppers.

Planning on another lower, for my Magpul PRS stock, to use with the Varminter upper, I guess.

Nice. I'm a little pissy they both didn't show up together today from Noveske. I'll get over it, because my ACOG's should get her tomorrow too. This will be a great weekend breaking in the new toys.

I'd love to get out of Cali and have all the fun SBR/Can stuff you guys can get into. My hearing is already shot and going fast downhill. My shooting buddies are looking at .416's so it's about to get much worse.

I have a Varminter like you are putting together. She's a dang heavy girl with the Loopy on her but man she shoots good. Total bipod rifle. I am out of safe room so no more rifles for me for a while. Maybe I can sell some of the shotguns on the other side?:grinpimp:

edwin907
10-29-2009, 07:29 PM
You take some great pics of some very nice hdwe Edwin.:) What camera are you using?

I use either my Olympus E-1 or the Canon G7.
The E-1 DSLR may be archaic, and only 5MP, but it's so easy to get a good shot it's funny. It's not good over ISO 400, but under it the colors are unrivaled, and it requires zero post-processing.

It's not the camera, it's the light!
I've actually got 13 Minolta manual focus SLRs, even an old XM Motor, and about 30 lens from the old days. Still got my original, an SRT-101 in black, with 58mm f1.4 lens from 1973. It works perfectly. I even have a Nikon film scanner, which I used before I got the E-1 (my first digital camera).

Here's another photo, one of my favorites, not an AR.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/KSA.jpg

Riverkid
10-29-2009, 07:31 PM
You have some obvious camera skills. It's great they have not gone to waste!:):bounce: Nice SBR!

edwin907
10-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Nice. I'm a little pissy they both didn't show up together today from Noveske. I'll get over it, because my ACOG's should get her tomorrow too. This will be a great weekend breaking in the new toys.

I'd love to get out of Cali

ACOGs too!!!
Pics are amust tomorrow!

Hey good buddy, there's plenty of romm down here in GA!

joes-jk
10-29-2009, 07:42 PM
my ar-15 isnt worthy of having its picture in this thread lol.

Riverkid
10-29-2009, 07:51 PM
my ar-15 isnt worthy of having its picture in this thread lol.

They are all worthy!:grinpimp:

NateK
10-29-2009, 08:04 PM
ACOGs too!!!
Pics are amust tomorrow!

Hey good buddy, there's plenty of romm down here in GA!

OR is closer. ;)
I'd have a SBR and a suppressor but I'm 19, two more years.... :pissed:
I've heard that you can get a SBR when you are 18 but it's difficult and I'm not exactly sure how to go about it... :bawling:

usmcdoc14
10-29-2009, 08:38 PM
LaRue is a great company and you really can't go wrong with them.

The company may be great but Mark is a dick and I refuse to send him my money.

There are other options and I use them :D

Jared89
10-29-2009, 08:49 PM
OR is closer. ;)
I'd have a SBR and a suppressor but I'm 19, two more years.... :pissed:
I've heard that you can get a SBR when you are 18 but it's difficult and I'm not exactly sure how to go about it... :bawling:

I am pretty sure you can make a SBR at 18+ but need to be 21 to buy it as a sbr. Best thing to do is go to your FFL.

lockednloaded
10-29-2009, 09:05 PM
I'd put pics of my baby in here, but :
A: I'd be ashamed after seeing some of Edwin's goodies...
B: I can't figure out how to post pics.
Great looking rifles. Riverkid, you got some awesome toys coming your way. I'd love to afford one ACOG, much less two. If you get bored with one and would like to *donate* it to a good cause, I can find a fine home for it.:D:beer:

SgtMikey
10-30-2009, 10:33 AM
usmcdoc14,
"The company may be great but Mark is a dick and I refuse to send him my money.

There are other options and I use them "

Tell us more.............

Mikey

lockednloaded
10-30-2009, 11:00 AM
usmcdoc14,
"The company may be great but Mark is a dick and I refuse to send him my money.

There are other options and I use them "

Tell us more.............

Mikey

Yea, I'm kinda curious about that myself.

fnc
10-30-2009, 04:11 PM
Is that a AK Brake Bushy HBAR?


AK brake, but not HBAR. At least it's not marked that it is. I can use the Beta C-Mag from my FNC with it as well as they are interchangeable.

I don't keep anything preloaded. It makes for more time at the range if I have to stand there and load up before shooting. The FNC goes through the 100rd Beta in about 10 seconds. I also seem to go through a little less ammo this way which saves me some money.

I'm waiting to see if my sear will work in the FN-SCAR. If it will, I know what I'm getting next. FN wouldn't say yes or no when I talked with them. All they would say is parts were not interchangeable. They wouldn't say anything specifically about the sear though.

edwin907
10-30-2009, 06:46 PM
They are all worthy!:grinpimp:

I second that!
You see, the AR15 is this nation's gun, and it ought to be mandatory for all red blooded american males to have one (or two, three)!

As far as the got to be 21 to get the SBR tax stamp, I think it depends on your state, whether you can have a trust or not.
See, it's the TRUST's gun, not yours! If your state allows you to have a trust at 18, your age becomes unimportant.

I asked a buddy who is very knowlegeable about the sear in the SCAR, and his reply was "that's the 64 dollar question". So nobody knows yet.

How about another photo.
My old 20" Gov Prof.
Need to build another!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/20in6.jpg

And one of the first pics of my first MRP.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/LMT-MRPc.jpg

After the sights came in!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/MRPTA31F.jpg

And one of my older AKs, circa 1993. $291 with the 75rd drum!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/Norinco7.62.jpg

And my oldest (since I sold the ancient Colt AR to a restorer), a .308 Valmet from 1984.
This was my sole auto loading rifle for many years, a heavy beast, backed up by UZIs and a Galil 5.56 AR that wasn't mine!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/valmet.jpg

Jaws
10-31-2009, 12:34 PM
I second that!
You see, the AR15 is this nation's gun, and it ought to be mandatory for all red blooded american males to have one (or two, three)!

As far as the got to be 21 to get the SBR tax stamp, I think it depends on your state, whether you can have a trust or not.
See, it's the TRUST's gun, not yours! If your state allows you to have a trust at 18, your age becomes unimportant.

I asked a buddy who is very knowlegeable about the sear in the SCAR, and his reply was "that's the 64 dollar question". So nobody knows yet.

How about another photo.
My old 20" Gov Prof.
Need to build another!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/20in6.jpg

And one of the first pics of my first MRP.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/LMT-MRPc.jpg

After the sights came in!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/MRPTA31F.jpg

And one of my older AKs, circa 1993. $291 with the 75rd drum!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/Norinco7.62.jpg

And my oldest (since I sold the ancient Colt AR to a restorer), a .308 Valmet from 1984.
This was my sole auto loading rifle for many years, a heavy beast, backed up by UZIs and a Galil 5.56 AR that wasn't mine!

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/valmet.jpg

Beautiful rifles again! But how do you do take the pics? They are awesome!!

usmcdoc14
10-31-2009, 10:34 PM
Tell us more.............

Mikey

Yea, I'm kinda curious about that myself.

Become a member on ar15.com and read anything posted by him. He treats everyone who does not worship his product like sht. He thinks that EVERY other company is a copy of his stuff even if the only similarity is they mount optics. He strives to hunt down threads on that forum and other forums that pertain to OTHER makers and then spam/bash his way in. He has personally insulted me and a hand full of pirate4x4 members while on ar15 because we did not care for his product in question, personal attitude or ethics.

some examples:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=784062&highlight=mark+larue
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=670699&highlight=mark+larue
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=731115&highlight=mark+larue&page=2

So I will go out of my way to use ADM, A.R.M.S. or even a airsoft mount before I use one of his.

Not because they suck, they are very good mounts, but because the owners is an a$$wipe.

lockednloaded
11-01-2009, 09:49 AM
I read those threads. Very interesting. I didn't know larue was such a douche.

fnc
11-02-2009, 02:04 PM
the AR15 is this nation's gun

What??? No love for the M-1??? :D:D:D

It is nice to see some wood on some of your rifles though. (I'm not sure how that's gonna sound. :thefinger::thefinger:)

I've got a Remington 03A3 that has been "sporterized" and is stupidly accurate on iron sights. It was part of a gunsmith's estate sale.

I've also got an H&K SLB 2000 with wood on it.

I'll have to take some pics and post them when I get home tonight.

lockednloaded
11-02-2009, 03:20 PM
Become a member on ar15.com and read anything posted by him. He treats everyone who does not worship his product like sht. He thinks that EVERY other company is a copy of his stuff even if the only similarity is they mount optics. He strives to hunt down threads on that forum and other forums that pertain to OTHER makers and then spam/bash his way in. He has personally insulted me and a hand full of pirate4x4 members while on ar15 because we did not care for his product in question, personal attitude or ethics.

some examples:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=784062&highlight=mark+larue
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=670699&highlight=mark+larue
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=731115&highlight=mark+larue&page=2

So I will go out of my way to use ADM, A.R.M.S. or even a airsoft mount before I use one of his.

Not because they suck, they are very good mounts, but because the owners is an a$$wipe.

I've been reading around on ar15.com as a guest, and I've decided to not become a member there. It seems like everybody is a navy seal delta force recon air force marine special forces commando who is giving a lot of new members a hard time for not buying something with a pony or Noveske stamped on the side. If you didn't drop $10,000 on your rifle, it isn't worth its weight in salt. I'd like to know just how many Noveske or Colt owners have had to use their rifle to get into a 5 hour full auto shoot out in their neighborhood. I'm betting not many have. Don't get me wrong, I'd love either one of those rifles, and their awesome products, but they aren't for everyone. Me included. I bought a DPMS and am very happy with it, but if I told arf that, they'd tell me it'll explode and kill my entire family if I think about shooting it. Granted, you get a lot of that every where you go, but it seems really prevalent on arf. I'll drop in every once in a while if I have some questions and see if I can look up the answer. Plus, I can't find ANYTHING on Mark Larue being a douche. They must be taking moderator notes from JKF. It does seem like there is a lot of pee pee sucking of Larue over there.

guinness
11-02-2009, 03:48 PM
I've been reading around on ar15.com as a guest, and I've decided to not become a member there. It seems like everybody is a navy seal delta force recon air force marine special forces commando who is giving a lot of new members a hard time for not buying something with a pony or Noveske stamped on the side. If you didn't drop $10,000 on your rifle, it isn't worth its weight in salt. I'd like to know just how many Noveske or Colt owners have had to use their rifle to get into a 5 hour full auto shoot out in their neighborhood. I'm betting not many have. Don't get me wrong, I'd love either one of those rifles, and their awesome products, but they aren't for everyone. Me included. I bought a DPMS and am very happy with it, but if I told arf that, they'd tell me it'll explode and kill my entire family if I think about shooting it. Granted, you get a lot of that every where you go, but it seems really prevalent on arf. I'll drop in every once in a while if I have some questions and see if I can look up the answer. Plus, I can't find ANYTHING on Mark Larue being a douche. They must be taking moderator notes from JKF. It does seem like there is a lot of pee pee sucking of Larue over there.

I am a member over at arf mostly for the EE area and the hometown areas.
You can find alot of info there but alot of bs as well. I like the larue products Ive seen; however, his reputation is making me reconsider any future purchases.

fnc
11-02-2009, 04:02 PM
Honestly, I haven't seen too many problems with many brands of AR15's. My Bushmaster takes repeated abuse from me (including occasional lack of cleaning) with very few problems. Most of the problems I've seen other people have seems to be either from combining internal parts from various brands or from using Wolf ammo or hand loaded ammo. The Wolf ammo issue seems to be from some of the lacquer on the casings building up and causing jams. The hand load issue, I think, is from people trying to size the casings to tight tolerances which may work for one manufacturer but not another. Oh, and crappy-ass, no name, Chinese, stamped steel magazines don't help things either.

lockednloaded
11-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Maybe I'm just looking too far into the issue. I've seen a lot of posts on arf that have something along the lines of "When I was a sf operator in Afghanistan, we used this, this, and this.... Blah blah, blah.... If you don't buy these $1400 optics, you're wasting your money and won't hit anything..." I work in a surplus store part time, and we get our fair share of wanna be commandos. Maybe I just got good at spotting military posers. Like fellas that come in and ask if we sell the Congressional Medal of Honor. I agree that there is a lot of great info on arf. There are a lot of great people there too, with a lot of knowledge. I'll listen to most info, but take other info with a grain of salt. Larue does have an awesome product, but after hearing about his antics, I doubt I'll ever buy one of his mounts. I'm looking at a TAPCO mount that is 1/10th the price.

guinness
11-02-2009, 05:15 PM
Maybe I'm just looking too far into the issue. I've seen a lot of posts on arf that have something along the lines of "When I was a sf operator in Afghanistan, we used this, this, and this.... Blah blah, blah.... If you don't buy these $1400 optics, you're wasting your money and won't hit anything..." I work in a surplus store part time, and we get our fair share of wanna be commandos. Maybe I just got good at spotting military posers. Like fellas that come in and ask if we sell the Congressional Medal of Honor. I agree that there is a lot of great info on arf. There are a lot of great people there too, with a lot of knowledge. I'll listen to most info, but take other info with a grain of salt. Larue does have an awesome product, but after hearing about his antics, I doubt I'll ever buy one of his mounts. I'm looking at a TAPCO mount that is 1/10th the price.

When the wannabee's start to drive you nuts just tell them they havent seen the real **** until they have stood shoulder to shoulder w/ the 82nd AIR EWOKS on Lana Jawa facing down a mega-battallion of Stormtroopers and Imperial Guard. Just make sure they are wannabee's first, never disrespect those that have served.:beer:
As for me. I build all my rifles for my personal use. Ill read reviews and listen to opinions but in the end I buy what will suit me and what makes me happy. F'em if others dont like it.
I might not have the nicest ar in my hometown area but I have the nicest jeep:D

lockednloaded
11-02-2009, 06:01 PM
When the wannabee's start to drive you nuts just tell them they havent seen the real **** until they have stood shoulder to shoulder w/ the 82nd AIR EWOKS on Lana Jawa facing down a mega-battallion of Stormtroopers and Imperial Guard. Just make sure they are wannabee's first, never disrespect those that have served.:beer:
As for me. I build all my rifles for my personal use. Ill read reviews and listen to opinions but in the end I buy what will suit me and what makes me happy. F'em if others dont like it.
I might not have the nicest ar in my hometown area but I have the nicest jeep:D

Couldn't have said it better. The 82nd air ewoks are known for being a tough, gritty unit. I believe Stephen Ambrose wrote a few books on their campaign during the Clone Wars. HBO is doing a 10 part miniseries on them soon. :thefinger:

I'd never disrespect those who have served, as they are the real deal. Posers make me want to kick em in the juevos. I'm building my AR how I want, with some advice from others. I'm buying an Eotech. They get bashed on arf all the time.Ya know what? It will work just fine for my purposes. I've got one of those "Super duper crappy made in the USA DPMS rifles that won't shoot a damn thing when you pull the trigger." I've got a couple hundred rounds through it, and not one problem. Had one round fail to fire, but it was a bad primer. Not the rifle's fault. I'm going to put junkie TAPCO parts on my AR,because I've used their stuff in the past on an SKS, and been very happy. That'll probably make it explode according to some at arf. I like Magpul, Trijicon, and Noveske, but it's just out of my needs and WAY out of my budget. I don't need a rifle that'll withstand being frozen in ice for 16 years, smashed out of said ice with a cinder block, thawed with a jet engine, used to cut down a tree for good measure, and then shoot 5K rounds thru it at full auto. All the time while having rock salt poured into the bolt. It would be nice tho...:D

NateK
11-02-2009, 07:40 PM
I own 2 AR's
Both are Noveske built on MagPul lowers.
I got plenty of **** for it over on ARF for spending way too much, etc.
I don't care I spent my $ on what I wanted.
I bought Aimpoint optics for them and am happy with them.
I bought LaRue mounts from them and am happy with them.
I have had two issues with LaRue the first worked out quickly and correctly the second is going in that direction.
I will buy from them again.
Mark LaRue can be a dick, but most of the time he is a stand up guy.
I don't care how much or little $ someone spends on their kit, it is their chouce, not mine.
If you want to go buy a DPMS, Bushy, or the like go for it, they are a fine rifle.
If you want to go buy a LaRue, LMT, Noveske, or the like go for it, they are a fine rifle as well.
I personally prefer to spend a bit more for something that I do not anticipate to have problems with and if problems do arise they will be resolved quickly.
I'll add that I plan to buy a S&W AR soon.
And am building a Seekins AR.

So what?!

/rant...

edwin907
11-02-2009, 09:33 PM
I'd actually reccommend that anyone thinking about joining ar15.com do so because of the archives.
If you actually bother to dig though all the stuff, and it can be pretty speedy with the search function, there is a great deal of info in the archives that isn't available anywhere else.
Of course if all you're interested in is the latest and greatest, maybe it would be a waste of time.

As far as the mounts, I use 'em all, and I know the limitations of each type.
We see ARMS constantly bashed by the LT cool-aid drinkers there, but you know what, ARMS makes all kinds of stuff no one else makes, period.
Sometimes you don't want the newest mount on the planet, but just a set of ARMS 22M rings for that SPR you just built, maybe 'cause that's what 99% of them use, and you want the "look".

As far as the personalities, who cares, we've got enough of them in Washington DC, without it spreading to everything else.
We're dang lucky to have the options available to us in rifle accessories, and I'm going to use what I like/works best reguardless of somebodies opinions. Opinions are like, well you know what they are like, everybodies got one.

I'm not ex-military/LEO or anything like that, but I have done "professional private security", been involved in 2 more shoots that I would like to have been, and have 25+ years of experience with military firearms, almost exclusively automatic carbines & "assault rifles".

I enjoy building and modifying ARs/AKs, and it brings me great pleasure to use my photography experience to bring you guys/gals pictures of various configs I've done over the years.

edwin907
11-02-2009, 09:36 PM
And I forgot to post a photo.

Here is a present from my brother, a retired USAF Colonel.
M1 Carbine, from 1943, certainly saw action in WW2 I'm told.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/Carbine.jpeg

Will be getting some better photos of her in the next couple of days.

lockednloaded
11-02-2009, 11:03 PM
Edwin, I appreciate all the pictures you post up. You've got one hell of a collection, and are a damn lucky guy. I'd love to have half of what you've got, hopefully one day I will. Keep the pics coming so I can keep dreaming!

lockednloaded
11-02-2009, 11:11 PM
Nate, post some pics of those rifles. Sounds like you got an awesome set of AR's there. I'm not bashing noveske or colt or the likes, they are awesome rifles. The point I was trying to prove is I feel if you don't have the best of the best of the best, then you get ridiculed. I've seen some threads where the only responses are " you shoulda bought xxxx brand of rifle instead of wasting your money on yyyyy brand." I'm going to build my rifle how I want to, regardless of what others think. Like you said, it's my rifle, and my money. Spend how I please. I might join up over there, but i'll have to think about it for a while. Might be worth it just for the archives and EE.

edwin907
11-03-2009, 07:40 AM
This brand stuff, well, it is nauseating sometimes.

I've got a WOA barrel in my 14.5" Scout. It replaced a Noveski 14.5" Afgan which was dissapointing in performance and pretty heavy.

The WOA was branded as junk by one of the local specialty shops the other day, particularly when I told them it replaced the Noveski.

I didn't bother to tell them it's a White Oak Armament Wilson match blank, with the barrel work done by Compass Lake Engineering.
Probably wouldn't have made a bit of difference in the opinion of these "experts".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/jtacsupply/14.jpg

The other day at the range, this one guy, about my age, well, maybe a little younger, was there with a DPMS 14.5" with a Burris scope, mounted with those cheapo rings, and shooting the x ring out of every target there at 100 yards, standing!
What is it BigBore says, "it's the singer, not the song".

usmcdoc14
11-03-2009, 09:33 AM
built on MagPul lowers.

WUT?!?

ummm exactly how did you get 1 never mind TWO magpull lowers?
I did motherfawkin Duracoated SHOT show furniture for them and I could not get one in trade.

fnc
11-03-2009, 02:10 PM
Hehehe...found (stole) this on another site and thought you guys might like it:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h317/shanez1/gun%20stuff/Homer.jpg

I can't tell if Homer is dreaming of an M60 or an M249 though. It should be easy for someone to photochop an AR into there I they want to. :beer::beer::beer:

Riverkid
11-03-2009, 05:15 PM
WUT?!?

ummm exactly how did you get 1 never mind TWO magpull lowers?
I did motherfawkin Duracoated SHOT show furniture for them and I could not get one in trade.

LMAO. I got after him 6 months ago. He says he knows no one. I think he's a fibber...:grinpimp::beer: Both nice Noveske custom rifles. For a kid, he's doing pretty dang good.:)

Riverkid
11-03-2009, 05:18 PM
This brand stuff, well, it is nauseating sometimes.

I've got a WOA barrel in my 14.5" Scout. It replaced a Noveski 14.5" Afgan which was dissapointing in performance and pretty heavy.

The WOA was branded as junk by one of the local specialty shops the other day, particularly when I told them it replaced the Noveski.

I didn't bother to tell them it's a White Oak Armament Wilson match blank, with the barrel work done by Compass Lake Engineering.
Probably wouldn't have made a bit of difference in the opinion of these "experts".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/jtacsupply/14.jpg

The other day at the range, this one guy, about my age, well, maybe a little younger, was there with a DPMS 14.5" with a Burris scope, mounted with those cheapo rings, and shooting the x ring out of every target there at 100 yards, standing!
What is it BigBore says, "it's the singer, not the song".

I have heard nothing but great things about WOA. They do some nice work. I don't know anyone that shoots them (but you), but it is what it is.:grinpimp:

The flute work is VERY nice...

usmcdoc14
11-03-2009, 06:50 PM
I can't tell if Homer is dreaming of an M60 or an M249 though. It should be easy for someone to photochop an AR into there I they want to. :beer::beer::beer:

M249, Sage stock, fed from a AR mag :laughing:

LMAO. I got after him 6 months ago. He says he knows no one. I think he's a fibber...:grinpimp::beer: Both nice Noveske custom rifles. For a kid, he's doing pretty dang good.:)

I just want to know who he works for or who he robbed to get them :laughing: I tried like hell to get a lower, just one, for all the work.
I did end up with a good deal but I wanted the lower. :laughing:

Riverkid
11-03-2009, 07:00 PM
Some kids have all the luck...:thefinger:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c70/idings3/DSC_0039.jpg

NateK
11-03-2009, 08:34 PM
Some kids have all the luck...:thefinger:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c70/idings3/DSC_0039.jpg

Sadly I did not make off with a chinadoll lower.
I was so close I could taste it, but the gy who had it traded it for a R700 with some custom work....
I can't remember the price, but I know it was somewhere close to 800 with a pre-production UBR.
My two that I did acquire were direct from Noveske limited edition runs of 50 rifles. Sadly I missed the 3rd rifle because I was out of town without a computer.

Even Chris Costa and Travis Haley were envious of me when I attended their awesome class because I have such low serial #'s lol.
Chris is CEO of MagPul Dynamics and Travis is the CEO/Owner of MagPul industries.

:D
I guess I've got some luck.
I did post a pic or two earlier in this thread.

Riverkid
11-04-2009, 05:49 PM
Got the Acog's mounted... Just waiting on a LPK to get the Noveske built up...:)

edwin907
11-05-2009, 07:19 AM
Got the Acog's mounted... Just waiting on a LPK to get the Noveske built up...:)


Awesome!

PhilD
11-05-2009, 07:34 AM
Awesome!X10 Very nice :smokin:

SgtMikey
11-05-2009, 08:30 AM
Riverkid,

Nice blasters and glass!!!!!

None of my business obviously and you can ignore me or answer in a pm but how are you getting all of those great rifles around your states assault rifle ban?

USMCDOC14,

Thank you Sir for the links, I appreciate it. I have browsed on AR15.com many times over the years but it's just not a place I have any interest in. I've been a member of another forum for many years where the members are typically more of the belief of being the quiet professional then the know it all secret internet squirrel team member.. Don't read into that, it's not meant to be disrespectful just my humble opinion!
As far as Larue vs. everything else goes I cant speak for the man or what, where or why he may have some ass rash for some people. All I know is that his gear has been the main choice for my gear and my teammates gear on the different teams that I have been on not because of his or the companies reputation but because the equipment has worked when many others stuff has failed..... I have had either issued, bought or tested pretty much every thing out there from companies and my personal opinion is that if my life, a family members, a teammates life or the lives of innocent people are going to be on the line buy the best one time, period. Don't stake lives on airsoft garbage or chinese made knock offs but keep in mind that there are many companies out there that make good gear for plinking, hobby guns and just general fun that doesnt cost an arm and a leg!

I've never met Mark Larue and chances are if I did I too may think he is an asshole but I can tell you his gear has worked well for me and I have always had great luck with his companies customer service. Hell they were out of stock on mounts that I needed in a bad way and instead of blowing smoke up my ass they sent me other mounts for free to keep and use until they could get what I needed made and delivered.

Mikey

Riverkid
11-05-2009, 09:27 AM
You can get Cal-legal AR's. Scottsdale Gun Club has a "Cali option", where you can get a Noveske or a LWRCI, they put in the Bullet Button mag release, they take the 30 rounder and put in a blocked ten round mag, etc.

You get all these parts here with a FFL stripped lower and it's a legal rifle

http://sgcusa.com/p3678/SGCUSA-California-Configured-Package/product_info.html

SgtMikey
11-05-2009, 09:46 AM
RK,

Thank you Sir for the info! I learned something new today;-)

Mikey

edwin907
11-05-2009, 01:07 PM
Some photos of the rifle length 14.5" MRP with the FSC556 Suppressor mount.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_B056581.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_B056588.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_B056596.jpg

http://bellsouthpwp.net/e/d/edwin907/_B056586.jpg

Plannin on fixed sights for this one, Maybe Daniel Defense front and rear, or an LMT front and LaRue Tactical rear.

NateK
11-05-2009, 05:42 PM
edwin, in all honesty....
How often do you build/buy/acquire/whatever a new rifle?
:laughing:

edwin907
11-05-2009, 07:04 PM
edwin, in all honesty....
How often do you build/buy/acquire/whatever a new rifle?
:laughing:

Not that often. Really. The AR is a "modular" weapon system.
This MRP upper is about 4, maybe 5 years old. With the 16" SS barrel it has been a mainstay of my collection of shooters. And a shooter it was with the 16, sub MOA at 450 yards with a better shooter than me!
The 14.5" barrel hasn't seen many rounds at all as the 16" I put in it was so dang accurate. I have now the two 18", the 16", and even the 24" rifles for precision, so I'm going back to the 14.5" /suppressor setup I originally bought this upper for. I removed the pinned on Phantom FS from the 14.5", and installed the FSC556 today.

I'm just not that big of a fan of SBRs, especially in ARs where you lose so much fragmentation range. Using this upper with the 14.5" and MK262/Hornady 75gr 5.56 will give a frag range out to 150+ yards. Even with reatively mild BHBB 75gr it will perform to 80-90 yards.
It won't replace the 10.5" MRP home defense upper. But it will be great fun at the range!

Now if I can just figure what fixed sights I want. Leaning toward DD or LT for the rear. Maybe a Troy fixed for the front.
Then maybe a Surefire X300 in front of the front sight.

Or maybe I'll keep the flip ups, so I can run the TA55A when I like.

Riverkid
11-05-2009, 08:25 PM
I just got a set of the Knights BUIS. They are small and pretty sweet...:)

edwin907
11-05-2009, 11:21 PM
I just got a set of the Knights BUIS. They are small and pretty sweet...:)

Which ones.
The above rifle has the KAC 300M, and the 18" SPR from earlier has the 600M. They are both great sights and they now make "micro" versions or something, but I haven't seen them yet.

I think I'll go with the LaRue rear sight (QD just in case I want to mount the PVS-14) and either the Troy or Daniel Defense or LMT fixed front.

How do you like those XTM Magpul rail covers. Love to get a set for camo on my Sout.

Riverkid
11-06-2009, 07:19 AM
Which ones.
The above rifle has the KAC 300M, and the 18" SPR from earlier has the 600M. They are both great sights and they now make "micro" versions or something, but I haven't seen them yet.

I think I'll go with the LaRue rear sight (QD just in case I want to mount the PVS-14) and either the Troy or Daniel Defense or LMT fixed front.

How do you like those XTM Magpul rail covers. Love to get a set for camo on my Sout.

I have the KAC micros on my 18". 600M rear and the small front flip. Going to get them sighted in this weekend. WES hooked me up...

The magpul covers go on easy and again easy to get them off if need be. Plus you can stipple them with a soldering iron if you need more grip. I've got a couple of the KAC handstops coming in, so I'm going to try those instead of the front vert grips... Going to flip them around backwards and use them as a front grip brace. Always something new to try out.:)

PS I have always wanted an MRP, that is one sweet upper setup.

PhilD
11-06-2009, 07:40 AM
Man I'm fed up with you guys showing all this great gear ;)

I have nothing to compare and can't even keep up with Edwin's great photography, but just for some variety:

http://www.philday.com/gallery/guns/images/002.jpg

http://www.philday.com/gallery/knives/images/002.jpg

Riverkid
11-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Phil, LOL.

You have some awesome gear and your pictures don't suck either!!!:beer: Is that a Chris Reeve knife? Very sporty.:smokin:

PhilD
11-06-2009, 09:48 AM
Is that a Chris Reeve knife? Very sporty.:smokin:Yes, that's a Shadow IV, but I prefer my Green Beret:

http://www.philday.com/gallery/knives/images/004.jpg

Now Edwin's going to post his damn Striders up :D

http://www.philday.com/gallery/knives/images/013.jpg

Riverkid
11-06-2009, 10:37 AM
Super nice!

LOL, I still just have a SOG or a gerber folded up in my pocket. I don't think I need to invest in a great blade, because I tear them up pretty fast... Those are like art - too nice to beat up.:)

PhilD
11-06-2009, 10:55 AM
LOL, I still just have a SOG or a gerber folded up in my pocket. I don't think I need to invest in a great blade, because I tear them up pretty fast... Those are like art - too nice to beat up.:)For that reason I carry two knives, a Strider SMF and a little Kershaw Zing which doubles as a box cutter, pry bar, and anything else that requires abuse:

http://www.philday.com/gallery/knives/images/012.jpg

Riverkid
11-06-2009, 12:05 PM
I like how you operate, Phil...:grinpimp:

Hey, I ordered this almost 6 months ago from HS, and the UPS guy just dropped the stock off about 50 minutes ago...:beer: He also brought my Triple Tap break. This will be a great weekend!