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Topkicker
02-07-2010, 07:38 PM
I know we all live in different regions of the country so the type of gun and caliber will vary on here. I usualy carry a 357 mag with a 4in barrel when camping and hiking. If i was to run into a bear I might feel a little under gunned even w hot 357 loads. What do you carry and pics are always a plus!

Mr.RonGilbert
02-07-2010, 07:46 PM
If I am wearing shorts and need to keep it concealed I bring the little S&W .357 mag:
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/TheGman_/Misc/P4090250.jpg

All other times I bring the .45:
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i302/TheGman_/Misc/P4090257.jpg

bodyguy
02-07-2010, 08:11 PM
I usually have this little guy with me in my back pack. Ruger Super Redhawk .44

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/kerriejoe/jeep/Picture442.jpg

SONIC
02-07-2010, 08:12 PM
I usually have this little guy with me in my back pack. Ruger Super Redhawk .44

http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae249/kerriejoe/jeep/Picture442.jpg

Do you use it as a gun or a club? :thefinger:

hutch
02-07-2010, 08:49 PM
Glock 27

bodyguy
02-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Do you use it as a gun or a club? :thefinger:

Depends on if I run out of ammo :D

s10x1000
02-07-2010, 10:20 PM
http://www.furlongpr.com/wp-content/uploads/_ultimate_machine_gun_flashlight_fork_knife.jpg

I keep it in my backpack

Pretty handy with the swiss army knife and lighting

16guns
02-08-2010, 04:28 AM
CZ75 compact 40cal.

ynkedad
02-08-2010, 05:23 AM
Glock .357 Sig.:)

Ogie
02-08-2010, 05:36 AM
Taurus snub=nose .357

kerryp
02-08-2010, 10:06 AM
http://www.furlongpr.com/wp-content/uploads/_ultimate_machine_gun_flashlight_fork_knife.jpg

I keep it in my backpack

Pretty handy with the swiss army knife and lighting

I especially like the hood ornament...:grinpimp:

Don't carry one when I hike, cuz I'm too lazy to hike....any other time I have my Kimber UCII 45

Moose512
02-08-2010, 10:53 AM
Any model Glock is great for being out in the elements. :beer:

TheBeatenPath
02-08-2010, 12:34 PM
http://www.furlongpr.com/wp-content/uploads/_ultimate_machine_gun_flashlight_fork_knife.jpg

I keep it in my backpack

Pretty handy with the swiss army knife and lighting

you could have saved sapce by using a spork:D

crestoncowboy
02-08-2010, 01:07 PM
if my hip feels up to it i carry a smith 460 xvr on my hip.

scottrock
02-08-2010, 01:08 PM
Ruger Security Six .357

f5driver
02-08-2010, 07:11 PM
Glock 20. 16 rounds of 10mm, forgeta bout it.

Riverkid
02-08-2010, 07:25 PM
Glock 20. 16 rounds of 10mm, forgeta bout it.

That get's it done!:smokin:

Topkicker
02-08-2010, 08:51 PM
if my hip feels up to it i carry a smith 460 xvr on my hip.

I got a S&W 500(same size as 460) with the 8 3/8 barrel. Thought I'd pack it more than I do. The size and weight make it not so "pack friendly" when hiking. Was thinking about a Ruger Alaskan in 454 or 44 mag. For now my 357 goes with me when alot of walking is involved.

S&W 500 (50 cal hand cannon)

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab70/Topkicker/500.jpg

guinness
02-09-2010, 01:33 AM
Over-under 12ga and a pistol. Shotgun loads and pistol caliber depend on time of year(spring time fishing in bear country bring out the heavy stuff).

1908_Cubbies
02-09-2010, 06:07 AM
Glock 27


X2!

D5Fire
02-09-2010, 06:32 AM
I carry my Beretta .40 with 31 rounds of hydrashock (3 clips and 1 in the tube, there is always 1 in the tube) and my 12 ga FN Tactical Police Shotgun with 17 3" magnum slugs. You never can tell when you might stumble upon something that would look great on a wall and in your freezer, or in a shallow hole for that matter.

oO_Rogue_Oo
02-09-2010, 11:18 AM
I carry an AR-7 for backpacking. For day hikes pretty much any old handcannon will do.

edwin907
02-10-2010, 05:33 PM
Krinkov

hidX
02-10-2010, 05:40 PM
My Kimber .45 is my all time favorite. Sometimes I have a few with me, depending on my mood.

Benchmark Designs Inc.
02-11-2010, 07:51 PM
G20SF FTW!

Mikey's Rubi
02-12-2010, 08:26 AM
Springfield Armory XD .45, 10 mags of JHP. That OR my 12 guage...depends on where I am camping really. Sometimes I get really crazy and have my 1911 on me, XD locked in the Jeep, Shotgun in the tent and Rifle in the Jeep as well.

Knot Wright
02-12-2010, 10:07 AM
http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/L11187830.jpg

posession of a concealed weapon in a federal park is a crime.

dsy
02-12-2010, 10:11 AM
http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/L11187830.jpg

posession of a concealed weapon in a federal park is a crime.

Knot everyone sticks to only federal parks :thefinger:

dsaxman
02-12-2010, 10:21 AM
posession of a concealed weapon in a federal park is a crime.

If you have a CCW, it is no longer illegal on Feb 22, 2010! http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/05/national_parks_gun_law_take_ef.html

Knot Wright
02-12-2010, 10:57 AM
If you have a CCW, it is no longer illegal on Feb 22, 2010! http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/05/national_parks_gun_law_take_ef.html

I believe that was not put into effect

dsaxman
02-12-2010, 11:20 AM
I believe that was not put into effect

There was an injunction filed last May but it was reversed.

I'm getting my info from the VDCL (website (http://vcdl.org)) Newsletter and this snippet was in the Jan 31st update:


**************************************************
13. IMPORTANT: Carry in National Parks starts on February 22nd, not
the 20th! National Forest update
**************************************************

A few weeks ago a spokesperson for the Department of the Interior
indicated in an interview that the first date carry would be legal in
National Parks was February 20th.

SHE WAS WRONG.

Dale Hawley emailed me that February 22 date for carry in the National
Parks.

Dale has been a busy boy - see the second part of this item dealing
with National Forests.

--

Philip,

I hate to be a pain but I think you have some bad info. My DOI
contact said she'd check and get back to me but every park I check
that references a change in the rules has the same info (February 22,
2010).

Dale

Everglades Nat'l park page
http://www.nps.gov/ever/parkmgmt/lawsandpolicies.htm

Yosemite Nat'l park page
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/weapons.htm

Great Smokey Mountains
http://www.nps.gov/grsm/parkmgmt/lawsandpolicies.htm

Glacier
http://www.nps.gov/glac/parkmgmt/lawsandpolicies.htm

Tonto
http://www.nps.gov/tont/planyourvisit/things2know.htm

Big Bend
http://www.nps.gov/bibe/planyourvisit/firearms.htm

---

Philip,

I also wanted to let you know that (in relation to the National -
PARKS- FAQ) I was also researching background and information on the
National FORESTS in Virginia and discovered several errors on the
information page for George Washington & Jefferson National Forests.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/gwj/general_info/index.shtml

The biggest error was stating that "No weapons of any kind are allowed
on national forest lands outside of hunting seasons. ( See State Game
Regulations.) Firearm ranges are the exception".

I contacted Mr. Chris Rose of the Forestry Service (csrose@fs.fed.us)
and had a brief but productive conversation with him.

Today the webpage was amended with more accurate and detailed
information (as follows).

---------------------

Laws Regarding Firearms on National Forest Lands

First, the primary laws governing possession of firearms and other
weapons on National Forest are State Laws. These laws were developed
by the states following establishment of our Cooperative Wildlife
Management Agreements. Most notable of the state laws concerns
controlling firearms on the National Forest are "cased gun laws".

Cased Gun Laws: As the name implies, this law requires that all
firearms on National Forest be unloaded and kept in a case. Virginia
and West Virginia have similar "cased gun laws". In order to allow
hunting, these laws make an exception.

o It is legal to have loaded firearms on National Forest during the
authorized general firearms and muzzle loading gun seasons for bear,
deer, grouse, pheasant, quail, rabbit, raccoon, squirrel, turkey, or
waterfowl. This exception is very specific and applies only during the
period when it is legal to take these listed species and doesn't
include carrying the loaded weapons in a vehicle.

o Because hunting on Sunday is prohibited, carrying a loaded gun on
National Forest is not legal on Sunday even if it is the Sunday in the
middle of the general firearms deer season.

o The second exception to this law allows people with a concealed
weapon permit to carry a loaded, concealed, handgun either on their
person or in their vehicle while on National Forest. This does not
apply if the person is engaged in a primitive weapons season or chase
only season.

o People muzzle loading or bow hunting may carry a concealed weapon as
long as they possess a concealed weapon permit.

---------------------

I would like to give Mr. Rose full Kudos for his professional attitude
and for his prompt response to this issue.

Sincerely,
Dale Hawley

************************************************** *******
VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
(VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization
dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to
Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org [http://www.vcdl.org/]
************************************************** *******

Renzo Fighter
02-14-2010, 12:51 PM
where did you get that green 27 reciever? I need that for my off duty!

zerolag
02-14-2010, 12:59 PM
Glock 27

My choice too for an everyday carry!

Broncojohn
02-14-2010, 01:27 PM
Defender 1300 pistol grip 12ga. I've never had any problems with the law, carrying a long gun.

TEXASKEV
02-14-2010, 10:14 PM
I always carry my colt 1911 45 in my JK - no paper.

Ray
02-15-2010, 04:16 AM
Smith & Wesson Model 60 357 mag. 2.5"

BiGEN
02-16-2010, 08:49 AM
i carry my HK 40 compact. great weapon, great concealing.. i wear it everywhere..

jimb66
02-16-2010, 10:22 AM
Ruger SP 101 .357. Upgraded the grips a little bigger for my hands.

jbuck
02-16-2010, 01:39 PM
Smith & Wessn 686+ in a 3" flavor, 7rds of potent 357mag. Or a Smith&Wesson M&P in a .40S&W with the 4" barrel, 16rds of slightly less potent .40 cal. Prefer the wheelgun for the outdoors though.

cruzcode
02-16-2010, 09:07 PM
I have an H&K USP .40, but I recently asked a close friend of mine (and Jeeper/Charlotte Detective) what he recommends.

He told me to give a serious look at the 1911 .45. The accuracy, the balance, and the stopping power with one shot that would take three of my .40 cals to do.

How do you 1911 .45 owners feel?

RC

jbuck
02-16-2010, 09:24 PM
Have one of those 1911's too. By far the easiest to shoot. But I don't have a good piece of leather to carry it in. So it stays in the safe. Then again it's alot harder to take a $2k+ gun into a dirty situations.

dsaxman
02-17-2010, 12:33 PM
I have an H&K USP .40, but I recently asked a close friend of mine (and Jeeper/Charlotte Detective) what he recommends.

He told me to give a serious look at the 1911 .45. The accuracy, the balance, and the stopping power with one shot that would take three of my .40 cals to do.

How do you 1911 .45 owners feel?

RC

Based on all of the reading I've done, it's just hype.

On first shot stop (depending on load):

.40 - 61-94% (1)

versus

.45 is 57-96% (2)

Note, both of those are non +P rated bullets (handloads doesn't have a .40 +P chart for comparison to .45), but given that top of the line personal protection ammo is 2% difference, and they are both WAY up on the chart, I think the point stands.

references:
(1) http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All
(2) http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=18&Weight=All

By caliber in general: http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=0

Hugo Stiglitz
02-17-2010, 08:03 PM
I got a S&W 500(same size as 460) with the 8 3/8 barrel. Thought I'd pack it more than I do. The size and weight make it not so "pack friendly" when hiking. Was thinking about a Ruger Alaskan in 454 or 44 mag. For now my 357 goes with me when alot of walking is involved.

S&W 500 (50 cal hand cannon)

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/ab70/Topkicker/500.jpg

For this monster, you need a whole backpack (with a frame), just for the gun itself!!! LOL!!!

Hugo Stiglitz
02-17-2010, 08:07 PM
http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/L11187830.jpg

posession of a concealed weapon in a federal park is a crime.

Not anymore starting 2-22-10. :D:):bounce::smokin:

Hugo Stiglitz
02-17-2010, 08:23 PM
Glock 17 for the humans.

4" .44 magnum for the bears.

Mossberg 590 w/either 00 buckshot, or slugs.....Depending on the situation???:smokin:

RODICON
02-17-2010, 09:10 PM
.45

StubEXrube
02-17-2010, 09:56 PM
I used to carry a Keltec .380 when I camped in the middle of nowhere or on the mexican border. It was very concealable, but most the places I camp these days, I choose not to carry a firearm....just mace, a nice Bowie knife, and a small aluminum bat called The Whomper.

RubiCajun
02-17-2010, 10:10 PM
all the time carry (in the jeep) is a Grendel P-30, .22 mag with 4 30 shot clips. camping, i carry the Grendel and a Colt .45 acp. driving in New Orleans, the combat zone, I carry the colt and a S.S. 8-1/2" Ruger Redhawk, .44 mag with red dot scope. :D

SONIC
02-17-2010, 10:35 PM
all the time carry (in the jeep) is a Grendel P-30, .22 mag with 4 30 shot clips. camping, i carry the Grendel and a Colt .45 acp. driving in New Orleans, the combat zone, I carry the colt and a S.S. 8-1/2" Ruger Redhawk, .44 mag with red dot scope. :D

I have never seen that Grendel before thats a sick little gun!
I like Keltec's a bit better though
http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=842

RubiCajun
02-18-2010, 06:13 AM
Well you would have if slick Willie wouldn't have put them out business. They made some slick weapons. Keltec is actually what Grendel morphed into. I paid $230 back in 90 or 91, don't quite remember. Bought one for the wife to carry. Then bought about 10 clips (300 rounds of firepower) at 15 bucks each. The P-30 now sells for around 5-6 hundred and the clips for around 80 to 90 bucks. I occasionally see P-30's or the .380 caliber model, don't remember the designation for sale on Gunbrokers.com.:beer:

jbuck
02-18-2010, 10:06 AM
Based on all of the reading I've done, it's just hype.

On first shot stop (depending on load):

.40 - 61-94% (1)

versus

.45 is 57-96% (2)

Note, both of those are non +P rated bullets (handloads doesn't have a .40 +P chart for comparison to .45), but given that top of the line personal protection ammo is 2% difference, and they are both WAY up on the chart, I think the point stands.

references:
(1) http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All
(2) http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=18&Weight=All

By caliber in general: http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=0

Working as a EMT in a small town I wasn't on too many shooting calls. But one was a officer involved shooting. It was a attempted "suicide-by-cop." The officer was shooting a 40S&W and he hit the perp in the femur. On impact the round shattered about 4" of bone. When we arrived on scene his right leg was significantly shorter then his left. All in all it was a pretty divistating hit.

crestoncowboy
02-18-2010, 07:40 PM
The p-30 has a 30 round mag that fits flush in the grip and the kel-tecs dont. thats the only selling point for the grendels I have one and they are ugly, uncomfortable, and not known for reliability. Maybe thats where the kel-tec comparison comes in.

RubiCajun
02-18-2010, 09:04 PM
The p-30 has a 30 round mag that fits flush in the grip and the kel-tecs dont. thats the only selling point for the grendels I have one and they are ugly, uncomfortable, and not known for reliability. Maybe thats where the kel-tec comparison comes in.

the grendel may be ugly now but when it debuted its looks and design were very unique. i don't find it uncomfortable. i imagine that has to do with the grip versus hand size. as for reliability, an X number of the originals had a design flaw on the firing pin which after so many rounds broke at the sharp shoulder. i called Grendel and they sent me a handful of redesigned pins (Titanium). I also used my dremel tool to polish the ramp and slide contact areas. i have no problems with extractions or jams. i have fired hundreds of rounds since then and i'm still using the same pin. as for stopping power you are limited, however i practice heart/headshots with the P-30. there is a high probability that any other shot placement will only be for incapacitation. i also like the fact that it is intimidating; sounds like my .45 and puts out about a 8" to 10" blue circle with an orange/red 8" flame out the barrel at night. I do like the Keltec replacement and will purchase one. :beer:

GreenAmphibious
02-26-2010, 09:53 AM
currently a 1911 but I just ordered a SW M&P 9:smokin:

joes-jk
02-28-2010, 12:24 AM
for walking around and quad riding or just going around in the jeep ill have my xd-40, or my springfield 1911. but if im going camping im normally going coyote hunting so ill have my ar-15 as well, normally with my ruger blackhawk in 45 colt and some 325 grain hot loads.

Cortez_conversions
02-28-2010, 07:04 PM
Smith and Wesson Mod 29, 44Mag!!

Firefighter_EMT
03-01-2010, 07:24 AM
Glock 23 .40 S&W. 165 gr. Hollow points made by gold dot

schild09
03-03-2010, 08:54 AM
not just camping but at all times i carry my XDM-.40 with nothing less than hollow points. 16 rounds of hollow point can make for a bad day.

Melodywriter
03-10-2010, 10:17 PM
.40 H&K P2000. With hollow points of course :D