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: Install help for teraflex bumpers/winch


JK Inferno
08-10-2009, 10:50 AM
So this is just a matter of opinion; I'm new to jeepin and I'm also pretty inexperienced with working on cars in general. I'd like to get teraflex bumpers on the front and rear and install a winch, but i don't feel like paying $700 to get it installed. Any help/advice?

axsys
08-10-2009, 11:40 AM
All you really need is a basic set of wrenches and sockets. If you want, i can help you install them and show you some basic stuff. The hardest part is wiring the winch, which is still relatively easy.

steves07jk
08-10-2009, 12:28 PM
I can help too I installed my whinch and front bumper myself

JK Inferno
08-10-2009, 12:29 PM
All you really need is a basic set of wrenches and sockets. If you want, i can help you install them and show you some basic stuff. The hardest part is wiring the winch, which is still relatively easy.

thanks man! as soon as i get all the parts ill tell ya

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Im game as well... work permitting.:beer:

owtdorz
08-10-2009, 02:19 PM
Install party?
The usual charge is beer!

bmweight
08-10-2009, 03:21 PM
I"m sure that we can put together a wrenching party together, Food and Beer and we're good to go.

axsys
08-10-2009, 03:47 PM
heck yea, ive got a pool and a grill plus all the tools so i could host it.

bmweight
08-10-2009, 03:49 PM
I think we should just start planning this GTG and hope the bumpers and winch are ordered in time

RubiJK
08-10-2009, 04:19 PM
If it fits my schedule, I am in too... I have a list of installs and work to do that just keeps growing... Including: adjust rear track bar, install both front and rear driveshafts, relocate and install new evap can and some gen maint...

Oh yeah, and maybe hydro assist steering depending on a couple of things... :D

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-10-2009, 04:24 PM
If it fits my schedule, I am in too... I have a list of installs and work to do that just keeps growing... Including: adjust rear track bar, install both front and rear driveshafts, relocate and install new evap can and some gen maint...

Oh yeah, and maybe hydro assist steering depending on a couple of things... :D

LOL same here... I have my CB, steering stabilizer, and xenon turn signals which Ive put off over a year now...

steves07jk
08-10-2009, 06:33 PM
Damn if were going to do this cameron is going to be one busy bee haha jk. Bj I just might have to take that MORE 1in body lift off your hands.

axsys
08-10-2009, 06:34 PM
geez i might have to hire a F1 pit crew to help everyone install this stuff lol. JK Inferno, when do you think you will have your bumpers and winch?

RubiJK
08-11-2009, 12:06 AM
Cam, where did you get that service manual you were telling me about? When you asked me, I was thinking of the part manual that I have not the service manual...

Also, let me know when you book the pit! lol

axsys
08-11-2009, 10:22 AM
Cam, where did you get that service manual you were telling me about? When you asked me, I was thinking of the part manual that I have not the service manual...

Also, let me know when you book the pit! lol

I've got it on a DVD, I can burn you a copy of it.

RubiJK
08-11-2009, 10:29 AM
I've got it on a DVD, I can burn you a copy of it.

That would be great if you could! Thanks man. :beer:

JK Inferno
08-11-2009, 11:06 AM
geez i might have to hire a F1 pit crew to help everyone install this stuff lol. JK Inferno, when do you think you will have your bumpers and winch?

haha well i hope sometime in the next month or so, funds permitting... lol. and to everyone else on this thread thanks alot in advance, and the food and beer is no problem, that's what im good at haha

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-11-2009, 12:59 PM
Hey Cam and Dave:
I talked to Joe about the rear passenger spring rubbing on the trackbar and he said it was from the spring undergoing a S-Bend and that we needed to relocate the coil pads back to the top of the axle. I dont know how that would help tho, since we allready reccessed the spring in the coil perch on the axle so it sits correctly. And I dont think eliminating the spacer would help, since almost all of my trackbar/spring wear was completely before I added my coil spacer...? Anyone have any ideas on this or maybe I should post this in the modified tech thread?

ZooseJK
08-11-2009, 01:38 PM
heck yea, ive got a pool and a grill plus all the tools so i could host it.

i dont think we can call it an INSTALL PARTY unless cameron is there...if hes not there its just A BUNCH OF DUDES STANDING AROUND SCRATCHING THERE HEADS PARTY.

cam can you burn me a copy too?:beer:

axsys
08-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Hey Cam and Dave:
I talked to Joe about the rear passenger spring rubbing on the trackbar and he said it was from the spring undergoing a S-Bend and that we needed to relocate the coil pads back to the top of the axle. I dont know how that would help tho, since we allready reccessed the spring in the coil perch on the axle so it sits correctly. And I dont think eliminating the spacer would help, since almost all of my trackbar/spring wear was completely before I added my coil spacer...? Anyone have any ideas on this or maybe I should post this in the modified tech thread?

Scott, when you change your rear pinion angle, the mounts on the axle that the bottom of your rear springs sit on rotate more toward the back of the jeep. Therefor, your spring sits a little bit further back than it normally would. Check out this entire thread and all the pictures:

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=96179

I would start by ordering a set of the wedges, because the next step is to cut off the mounts on your axle and either weld new ones on or get the JKS ones:

http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SPRINGMOUNTS&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Coil_Spring

BTW, If you do, order a set for me as well and I'll pay you back for them.

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Scott, when you change your rear pinion angle, the mounts on the axle that the bottom of your rear springs sit on rotate more toward the back of the jeep. Therefor, your spring sits a little bit further back than it normally would. Check out this entire thread and all the pictures:

http://www.jk-forum.com/showthread.php?t=96179

I would start by ordering a set of the wedges, because the next step is to cut off the mounts on your axle and either weld new ones on or get the JKS ones:

http://store.jksmfg.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SPRINGMOUNTS&Store_Code=JKS01&Category_Code=Coil_Spring

BTW, If you do, order a set for me as well and I'll pay you back for them.

Hmm Ill look into that, but Joe just got back to me with the solution of adjusting my upper control arms... Think that might be better since it wouldnt push the axle out and back with compression elimintating rubbing?

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-11-2009, 01:48 PM
i dont think we can call it an INSTALL PARTY unless cameron is there...if hes not there its just A BUNCH OF DUDES STANDING AROUND SCRATCHING THERE HEADS PARTY.

cam can you burn me a copy too?:beer:

Hey hey hey... Cam and I were a team during my install:thefinger: I just used him for his rocking tool sets and garage not his labor... HAHA j/k

RubiJK
08-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Scott, I would get the wedges for sure. Either that, or do it right and cut yoru perches like Cam said. Adjusting your CA's is going to roll you axle and mess with your driveline. You want to keep your angles right first and foremost. The greater the lift, the more the axle has to roll to keep your pinion angle correct. So, when you go real big you have to rotate the spring perches back by themselves. I hear those wedges work well, and stay seated with no problems though...

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-11-2009, 02:15 PM
Scott, I would get the wedges for sure. Either that, or do it right and cut yoru perches like Cam said. Adjusting your CA's is going to roll you axle and mess with your driveline. You want to keep your angles right first and foremost. The greater the lift, the more the axle has to roll to keep your pinion angle correct. So, when you go real big you have to rotate the spring perches back by themselves. I hear those wedges work well, and stay seated with no problems though...

Thats interesting, but Im wondering if they were set right from the beginning. I still wondering why Joe from teraflex would reccommend that if he didnt supect something wrong with it in the first place. Maybe I should bring it to desert rat and have them look at it since they installed the majority of the lift and set up my driveline...? The perchers tho, do look nice, but I want to make sure everything in correct placement before going that route. Plus those perches add another 1/2" to 1" more in suspension height which I want to try and avoid....

RubiJK
08-11-2009, 02:23 PM
Thats interesting, but Im wondering if they were set right from the beginning. I still wondering why Joe from teraflex would reccommend that if he didnt supect something wrong with it in the first place. Maybe I should bring it to desert rat and have them look at it since they installed the majority of the lift and set up my driveline...? The perchers tho, do look nice, but I want to make sure everything in correct placement before going that route. Plus those perches add another 1/2" to 1" more in suspension height which I want to try and avoid....

Thats probably a good idea. It also depends on the trackbar and bracket. I've seen this on smaller lifts even... if they didnt set their CA's correctly OR if they have a drop down bracket on the frame side instead of raising the trackbar bracket on the axle side. I ran like that for a while, and mine was mm's away from hitting. I had to suck both my LCA'a and UCA's forward and roll my axle a little to get my TB from not hitting my ARB diff cover, too.

Anyway, I would just make sure you ask a LOT of questions about how they might fix it and why they are fixing it. You can make it so it doesnt rub, but it might be by sacrificing something else...

There is only so much that can be done, and the higher the lift the more limited the "fixes" are... With your 21" of lift you might not have a choice but mess with the perches! :thefinger:

axsys
08-11-2009, 02:26 PM
Thats interesting, but Im wondering if they were set right from the beginning. I still wondering why Joe from teraflex would reccommend that if he didnt supect something wrong with it in the first place. Maybe I should bring it to desert rat and have them look at it since they installed the majority of the lift and set up my driveline...? The perchers tho, do look nice, but I want to make sure everything in correct placement before going that route. Plus those perches add another 1/2" to 1" more in suspension height which I want to try and avoid....

See what they say, but i dont think that they rotated your perches even though they probably should have with a 6" lift. It doesn't rub when sitting on the ground, which is probably why they skipped it since it a PITA.

BLK RUBI ON 40s
08-11-2009, 02:39 PM
See what they say, but i dont think that they rotated your perches even though they probably should have with a 6" lift. It doesn't rub when sitting on the ground, which is probably why they skipped it since it a PITA.

Hmm... Maybe then I can also adress why the heck my jeep leans to the right and im sure its not a gansta lean:smokin::shaking:

21"s of lift :thefinger:

Bruzr
08-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Install party?
The usual charge is beer!

Im in - I need to install:
Superflux Super white LED - Rocklights + 3 way switch (On, Off, & Alarm)
White LED - Under dash courtesy lights (tied into dome lights)
White LED - Under hood light + Switch
Blue LED - Accent lighting + Switch (Depending on how it looks)
Market Light Mod
Evap Skid

Are there any Electricians in the house?

axsys
08-12-2009, 10:33 AM
Im in - I need to install:
Superflux Super white LED - Rocklights + 3 way switch (On, Off, & Alarm)
White LED - Under dash courtesy lights (tied into dome lights)
White LED - Under hood light + Switch
Blue LED - Accent lighting + Switch (Depending on how it looks)
Market Light Mod
Evap Skid

Are there any Electricians in the house?

Yours truly, plus my brother is really good at wiring as well so he could help you while I'm wrenchin somewhere else.

Bruzr
08-12-2009, 10:56 AM
Sweet

Did anyone decide when the wrenching would take place?
I need to pick up some wire and switches.
Can you recommend/suggest what gauge?


EDIT: Here are my LED's and the switches are on their way.
10 white, 10 blue, & 4 superflux

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z90/amanty/photo-2.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z90/amanty/PronicR136.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z90/amanty/PronicR1316.jpg

Bruzr
08-16-2009, 07:59 PM
bump

axsys
08-16-2009, 08:26 PM
Sweet

Did anyone decide when the wrenching would take place?
I need to pick up some wire and switches.
Can you recommend/suggest what gauge?


EDIT: Here are my LED's and the switches are on their way.
10 white, 10 blue, & 4 superflux


You don't need a very big gauge for LEDS, I would try to find somethin around 20 or 22 and you should be fine.

No date set on the install yet, still waitin for JK Inferno's bumpers to come in...