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: New Heavy Duty ORO Tie Rod (& axle disaster)


4x4LOYR
07-13-2009, 04:15 PM
Installed a new Heavy Duty ORO Tie Rod on Saturday, and then immediately went out and destroyed the U-joint assembly on the front driver's side of my axle. I got about a total of 12 miles on the new Tie Rod; but, so far I love it. I had a small shimmy at a certain speed, and it seems to be a lot less now. The steering just seems more firm (of course, I still have very few miles on it since the JK is now on jack-stands (again)).

So, the install of the new ORO *straight* heavy duty tie rod:
The old tie rod removed:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1369.jpg
The new bracket for the new tie rod (driver side)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1374.jpg
The new bracket & tie rod (passenger side)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1379.jpg
The new bracket & tie rod (driver side)
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1380.jpg
Adjusting the "Toe"
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1384.jpg
New Tie Rod installed
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1391.jpg

And, the axle shaft U-joint disaster:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1394.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1395.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1397.jpg

The hill that did me in (the photo does not do it justice -- I was the only one *smart* enough to attempt to climb up it):
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/tycarss/IMG_1398.jpg


Ty....

Mr.RonGilbert
07-13-2009, 04:48 PM
Great write up. Sucks a biggun' about the axle though. I need to swap out my tie rod as well, mine is bent.

Any clue on the cause of the axle failure? Usual suspect coughskinnypedalcoughcough or something else?

4x4LOYR
07-13-2009, 05:18 PM
Great write up. Sucks a biggun' about the axle though. I need to swap out my tie rod as well, mine is bent.

Any clue on the cause of the axle failure? Usual suspect coughskinnypedalcoughcough or something else?

Yeah, my tie rod was way bent and wavy (damn rocks). This new straight one is great (so far).

Oh, I was goofing off trying to make it up the hill; just couldn't get myself over a couple of rocks, and well, I had some pretty good RPMs spinning . . . a bit too much skinny pedal, yes.

The new RCV Performance axle shafts have been ordered and are already on their way. Getting away from them ol' U-joints (being that this is the second time I've blown out that assembly).

StubEXrube
07-13-2009, 06:57 PM
You sure that you didn't lose a u-joint cap, causing this failure?

Mr.RonGilbert
07-13-2009, 08:27 PM
The new RCV Performance axle shafts have been ordered and are already on their way. Getting away from them ol' U-joints (being that this is the second time I've blown out that assembly)

Get some good pix of the new setup... .sounds like something that folks would be interested in.

RUDY850
07-13-2009, 08:45 PM
Got a link for more infomation on the tierod. looks good

4x4LOYR
07-14-2009, 10:19 AM
You sure that you didn't lose a u-joint cap, causing this failure?

I'm not sure. Someone with me found two caps, and some metal chunks, but that was about it. Hard to tell; pretty sure I was on the gas more than I should have.

4x4LOYR
07-14-2009, 10:22 AM
Got a link for more infomation on the tierod. looks good

I ordered the tie rod from Kevin's Off Road, but when it showed up it was labeled as an ORO brand. Both have it on their websites. I'd add a link but I'm current on my PDA; will try to do so later.

MR LIKA
07-14-2009, 10:37 AM
Remember that it's ok to take the Girl Scout bypass every once in a while:beer:

4x4LOYR
07-14-2009, 11:38 AM
Remember that it's ok to take the Girl Scout bypass every once in a while:beer:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But only on trails where everyone else has Dana 60's. Stupid rocks. :shaking:

4x4LOYR
07-14-2009, 11:39 AM
The link for the Off Road Only Tie Rod kit (https://secure48.mysecureorder.net/offroadonly/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=274&osCsid=lthh4fcail6tn40jamfqof6t14)

Ogie
07-14-2009, 11:47 AM
Nice kit but it's more expensive than Poly's.

4x4LOYR
07-14-2009, 01:46 PM
Nice kit but it's more expensive than Poly's.

Yes, however, Poly's is not straight . . . :shaking:


Poly Performance Jeep JK Chromoly Tie Rod
Description:
•Heavy duty tie rod for Jeep JK Wranglers
•Bent similar to factory bar to clear sway bar mounts
•Made from 13/8" 4130 Chromoly and Heat Treated for maximum strength
•Poly Performance Double Adjuster Sleeve: allows adjustment of tie rod length without removing it from the vehicle
•Strongest Jeep JK Tie Rod on the market!
•Suspension components feature an abrasive resistant powder coat finish for maximum durability and corrosion resistance
•100% bolt on components assures an easy, trouble free installation with the use of basic hand tools
Includes:

•(2) Heavy Duty Tie Rod Ends
•(2) Castle Nuts and Cotter Pins
•(1) Heat Treated Chromoly Tie Rod
•(2) Grade 8 Pinch Bolts & Hardware
•(2) Poly Performance Double Adjuster Sleeve

What I liked about the one that I got is that it raises the tie rod up a bit (a bit more clearance in the front sounded like a good idea to me).

Ogie
07-14-2009, 01:55 PM
Yes, however, Poly's is not straight . . . :shaking:
So? The sucker is strong and short of driving off a cliff, it's not going to get tweaked.



What I liked about the one that I got is that it raises the tie rod up a bit (a bit more clearance in the front sounded like a good idea to me).

By one whole inch. :shaking: Everytime I smacked my tie rod into a rock, one inch would have made no difference.

Don't get me wrong, Ty, it's a nice tie rod. I just think Poly's a slightly better deal. :beer: :thefinger:

rubirobv
07-14-2009, 02:08 PM
Yes, however, Poly's is not straight . . . :shaking:



What I liked about the one that I got is that it raises the tie rod up a bit (a bit more clearance in the front sounded like a good idea to me).


I saw that. Couldn't hurt to get the tie rod up. Just wonder if it's enough to make a difference. I guess you'll tell us. This is the first I've seen where the tie rod is raised up. I wonder if you're going to smash the steering stabilizer on the drag link with the tie rod raised up some?

Riverkid
07-14-2009, 05:27 PM
Remember that it's ok to take the Girl Scout bypass every once in a while:beer:

Says the guy with 37's all locked up...:thefinger::grinpimp::beer: He definitely tried at BBFF...:beer::beer:

Co4Lo
07-15-2009, 06:24 AM
Every inch of clearance is valuable. And most importantly, the fact that it's straight makes it adjustable without the use of sleeves, and it will never rotate under load. The slightest bit of rotation will cause a bent tie rod to have noticeable slop at the steering wheel.
Knowing ORO, it's probably worth the money. They are not as popular as some of the bigger players, but they build some quaity stuff.:)

4x4LOYR
07-16-2009, 02:37 PM
Every inch of clearance is valuable. And most importantly, the fact that it's straight makes it adjustable without the use of sleeves, and it will never rotate under load. The slightest bit of rotation will cause a bent tie rod to have noticeable slop at the steering wheel.
Knowing ORO, it's probably worth the money. They are not as popular as some of the bigger players, but they build some quaity stuff.:)

Yeah, I really like the tie rod so far, plus the little bit of more clearance, and for whatever reason, I dig the fact that it is *straight* . . . easy to adjust, and then tighten down.

And maybe more importantly, the service at ORO is great! I didn't even buy this directly from ORO, but rather, from Kevin's Off Road (KOR). Well, I contacted Kevin’s, and through them, I got in touch with ORO, who is really helping me out. ORO makes a bracket that accommodates upgraded axle shafts, and since I will now have upgraded axle shafts, they have sent me out the new, improved brackets. And, they sent them overnight to me because I am hoping to install the new shafts this weekend (I paid for the overnight shipping), but they are covering the return postage for the slightly used original brackets.

Good people to work with.

b1pig
07-16-2009, 11:28 PM
dont they have Longfield axles now for the JK? wonder how much stronger they are... just skimmed over it in one of the mags yesterday....
steering looks pretty decent. i guess that is to give it a little more leverage and cut down on bending the tierod?